Is being gay wrong?

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Is being gay normal or wrong?

It's perfectly normal, of course!	31%	[ 193 ]
It's perfectly normal, of course!	31%	[ 194 ]
It's wrong and people should be punished for such sodomy!	5%	[ 34 ]
It's wrong and people should be punished for such sodomy!	5%	[ 34 ]
It's really none of my business.	14%	[ 85 ]
It's really none of my business.	14%	[ 85 ]

Total votes : 625

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27 Mar 2006, 3:57 am

I have posted this exact same thing in a seperate forum:

Even if Gay people have a right to exist.
Even if Lesbians are aloud to use hands for secks.
I still think that I have a right to experiment with pleasure where me and the other girl will like the result, ethical hedonism. I am not an S&M kind of guy but, why should people not be aloud to do that?
That is my opinion of course.

I have this belief that there the reason for the law should be protected.
If the reason for not alowing sodomy is because more children will be born then that defeats the purpose. We are in a stage of overpopulation. Unless we can go across the universe then we must conserve the numbers of our species and especially the resources.
What is the point in continuing to multiply?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah
Their were far worse crimes then people having secks with other people. And even for you fury lovers their was rape too.

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Christianity
Jude 7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Jewish
Classical Jewish texts do not specifically indicate that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because inhabitants were homosexual. Rather, they were destroyed because the inhabitants were generally depraved and uncompromisingly greedy. Rabbinic writings affirm that the primary crimes of the Sodomites were terrible and repeated economic crimes, both against each other and outsiders.

A rabbinic tradition, described in the Mishnah, postulates that the sin of Sodom was related to property: Sodomites believed that "what is mine is mine, and what is yours is yours" (Abot), which is interpreted as a lack of compassion. Another rabbinic tradition is that these two wealthy cities treated visitors in a sadistic fashion. One example is the story of the "bed" that guests to Sodom were forced to sleep in: if they were too short they were stretched to fit it, and if they were too tall, they were cut up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

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Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good."

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"About this time the Sodomites grew proud, on account of their riches and great wealth; they became unjust towards men, and impious towards God, insomuch that they did not call to mind the advantages they received from him: they hated strangers, and abused themselves with Sodomitical practices" (Antiquities 1.11.1)

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In modern German, the word Sodomie has no connotation of anal or oral secks, and refers specifically to zoophilia; it has connotations similar to the English-language word "bestiality". (See Paragraph 175, version of June 28, 1935.) The same goes for the Norwegian word sodomi.

If you dig further, the reason why the church was against gay secks is because the church was against people having secks before marriage. And traditionally sense two people of the same gender could not be married.

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Just try to change it Stephen, the Block will not support you.

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20 Jun 2006, 10:18 am

Brain responses differ in homosexual men <--- link

Brain responses differ in lesbian women <--- link

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20 Jun 2006, 8:55 pm

Homophobia is like the Klu Klutz Klan.

At the same time so stupid it's absolutely hilarious, and terrifying.

I should go troll some of those idiots. Best part is I'm completely justified.

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22 Jun 2006, 4:25 pm

Homosexuality is not wrong and is part of the human experience. It is not wrong to be left handed or have blue eyes because you were born that way. If you're straight, did you choose to be straight? If you're gay, did you choose to be gay? Probably not. You probably realized what you were attracted to and have been going for it ever since. But, just because you primarily like the opposite sex does not mean that you can't be attracted to someone of the same sex on occasion. I've been very attracted to other women at times, but when it comes down to it, I'd prefer to have a guy. Being heterosexual/homosexual/transgendered/bisexual/asexual is as natural as any other difference between living things.

Here's an interesting article...homosexuality found in nature:
http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/0 ... ge=all&p=y

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23 Jun 2006, 10:05 am

TigerFire wrote:

Sarcastic_Name wrote:

You're right blondie, they didn't ask to be gay, they wanted to be. I'm trying my best not to "flame" when I say that I don't support Homosexuality. I'm not biased against them, I just don't agree with their lifestyle. I have a few gay/bi friends, and they know this about me.

Whether it's normal or not, I honestly don't care. Society's "Normal" is celebrity-worshipping, tv addicted, pill-popping, diet obseesed morons. Whether gay is included with that or not is irrelevant.

I don't know about it being biological though. I haven't read up on that before, an online source would be nice please.Is this one of topics where the research is more opinion than fact? I want some reliable info. :!:

I as well am against anything and everything that they are. I mean how low and stupid can a person be about their sexuality? I don't have any friends that are gay, thank goodness. If I ever see two gays together, if I had the guts to do it, I would split them apart and have them very far from each other. It's just sick. No offense to anyone but that's how I feel. If I wasn't afraid of being put to prison for a life sentence and I owned a sword I would slice them apart. I'm not that type of person but when I let my anger take control of me I'll probably will. I'll be engraged by then.

Raping kids is sick. Raping dead bodies is sick. Raping little old women is sick. Raping little babies because you think it will cure your Aids is sick. Consenting acts between two adults is not. (This is just my opinion, and not an attack.)

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23 Jun 2006, 11:50 am

stlf wrote:

For the most part it's biological, although I'm sure that someone here will argue with me on that (preparing data to counter them as you read this) However, yes we do have free will and I guess someone could "choose" to be gay if they wanted to.

In my opinion being gay is like being an aspie...it may not be the norm in our society, but it is as valid as any other way of being.

You know that if being gay is biological (attracted to same sex) so is being attracted to the underage and relatiives. After all, all desires have their basis in the biological.

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24 Jun 2006, 4:13 am

Keeno wrote:

I remember she was upset and distraught for the simple reason that she felt unworthy to be loved by God because she's a lesbian. Because all she wants to do is follow Jesus.

How ironic. She shuns the love of a woman for a man who can never love her back.

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24 Jun 2006, 5:23 am

TigerFire wrote:

What you wrote there is sick. You want to murder homosexuals? You are one seriously disturbed person.

I note that you have said previously that you are a christian.

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24 Jun 2006, 5:37 am

Whoa Tigerfire, you want to kill homosexuals??? That is really extreme. Even if you assume that homosexuality is wrong, then how is it supposed to be worse than other serious crimes like murder or rape, where perpetrators are routinely given only prison sentences? Do you seriously believe that not only homosexuality is bad, but that it is so bad that it is worse than these crimes?

And why do you believe homosexuality is so bad? I have entertained the possibility of being a homo/bisexual myself. How does that make me a bad person?

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24 Jun 2006, 12:39 pm

Sundy wrote:

It sounds like you've read Alfred Kinsey. I could,nt agree more. But it still does'nt change the fact that gay guys give me the heebee jeebee's.

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24 Jun 2006, 1:00 pm

Why do Christains think that homosexuality rules out and above all other sins? It does not, because first of all it's not a choice. Christains will argue "God gave use free will", but did "God" give us free will to be Aspies? Did "God" give us free will to be the nationality we are?

If homosexuals could change thier orientation, so could straight people. Go on, be attracted to George Bush if you already not? Can't? Hummm......?

Really, why would someone want to be homosexual? They get treated so badly, it's sickining! It's like they are next black people for the half 20th-21th centery! What TigerFire wrote was perfect example of the irrational discrimination they get. It does not make rational sense to choose to be what other people hate, it's dangerous. Homosexuals get murdered for being who/what they are.

If any one's like TigerFire and a so called "Christain"; remember the fifth deadly sin, Wrath?
Inappropriate [unrighteous] feelings of hatred and anger. Denial of the truth to others or self. Impatience with the law, or seeking revenge outside of justice. Unnecessary vigilanteism. Wishing to do evil or harm to others. Disliking others for no good reason, such as their race or religion, leading to discrimination. Wrath is considered childish because hatred is often born out of misunderstanding, or the inability to forgive. And you are all hypicrits, each and everyone of you! Every sin has the same value so you "Christains" should be more worryed about your own sins than anyone others' sins. http://www.podcastpickle.com/casts/10534/ go to show 22, I love their show!

TigerFire, if you are a "Christain" and don't repent soon, you are going to the place where other homosexuals may be if it is a sin. *points downward* It's totaly ironic! :mrgreen:

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24 Jun 2006, 1:47 pm

TigerFire wrote:

parts wrote:

TigerFire wrote:

Sarcastic_Name wrote:

Then murder is okay? Hopefully just a troll I can't think someone would feel that way.

You can't judge a person like that.

Funny thing to say after what you just did.

Guess what Tigerfire.. I might be gay.. want to slice me apart?

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24 Jun 2006, 1:58 pm

Being Bi or homosexual is as normal as being on the autistic spectrum..

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25 Jun 2006, 4:03 pm

Oh goodie were getting back to the interesting posts of old

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25 Jun 2006, 5:11 pm

Some peoples responses are so zealously OTT it makes you wonder if their hiding something! :lol:

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28 Jun 2006, 9:56 am

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Raping kids is sick.

I agree this is wrong because it is non-consentual.

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Raping dead bodies is sick.

However, a dead person does not exist anymore, this is not any more wrong that having sex with objects.

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Raping little old women is sick. Raping little babies because you think it will cure your Aids is sick.

True, see above.

As for my views on homosexuality, it think it should be allowed because it does not harm society because it does not produce offspring and so, thanks to evolution, cannot become the majority, the only way homosexuality could harm humanity (by declining population).

P.S. I am a libertarian, if you are confused why I think like this.

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