Is being gay wrong?

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Let's not forget that Matthew Shepard isn't the only case; it's just the most famous case. People love throwing down the Matthew Shepard card because it was a particularly brutal murder, but sometimes I think it's a bit unfair that people only remember a victim's name if lots of blood, beatings, and barbed wire were involved. Also, in most cases the media tries to downplay a gay murder victim's gayness. And yes, most news agencies tried to downplay the aspect of prejudice in the Matthew Shepard case.

See also Calpernia Addams, post-op transsexual actress. Her boyfriend was in the Army, and he got killed by some Army douchebags in his sleep. Yeah, he wasn't gay, strictly speaking, but I'm sure the perpetrators weren't thinking "hey, his girlfriend used to be a guy, let's get him!" so much as "hurrrr fag!"

very true.


it's hidden a little better and a lot people are ignorant enough to just look the other way. it's sad.

In many parts of the world, homosexuality is still illegal. And punishable by execution.

See above. Id guess its nearer to 100 per day than just 1.

The sad thing is some of them escape to places like the UK, naively thinking they will get refugee status and the chance of a new life. Unfortunately the UKs particular interpretation of international law does not recognise legal prosecution abroad as a form of persecution. So even if the they have documentary proof that their telling the truth (rare) they still get refused on a technicality. Then eventually forced onto a plane, flown back and handed directly back to the authorities who want to execute them.

i never heard of such a thing. and that some countries execute gays has little to do with homophabia. in such countries, you get assassinated for the way you dress, for your political views, for mentioning the government, for having a wrong haircut, for saying anything wrong about or to people to do with "law enforcement" or religion/spiritualism etc.

and what does suicide have to do with it? thats a persons own choice.

and the UK is not the prefered country for refugies, for obvious reasons.

I blame religion and ignorence, thgough the two are often closely tied.

Err... yes exactly, gays get murdered because their actions are considered against the religion. Homophobia comes from a lot of things, one of the prominent reasons is religion. In many Muslim countries, it is ok for a person to kill a person who is even suspected to be gay or to refuse to "convert" to heterosexuality. It is a form of vigilante justice. This is homophobia. And gays do die from it. It's why they try to flee to Europe to seek asylum. So it would not be correct to say that "gays get executed but it's not from homophobia." Homophobia is *part* of the political view, for going against what the establishment wants.



People who have seriously considered or even attempted suicide would strongly disagree with you. They would do it because it is an escape, because they feel that there is no other way to resolve things.



Every country has its own agenda, whether people like it or not. That's not to mean that agendas are good... or bad... or smell funny...

If being gay is wrong, then I'm glad I'm not.

Although what two or more consenting people do behind closed doors is their own business, so long as they can limit their displays in public. This goes for heterosexual couples, as well.

Heck, people could have sex with a doorknob, so long as the doorknob consents and I don't have to watch.

don't forget the "kill the bati-man" craze in jamaican dancehalls.

clue-in to the ignorant: bati is basically jamaican slang for fa***t.

Well, you've successfully lowered the bar for this thread. And don't mind that I'm taking your quote out of context, because it was actually pretty ridiculous in context as well.

f**k, just cause of it being considered wrong (if it is), i would consideder being one.

and suicide to prevent gitting murdered..... i dont know. doesnt make sense to me. and i have considered sucide, thoughout most my life.

amd most refugies prefere my country teh netherlands. though it ischangng......

Garlic doesn't care about your sexuality. He accepts you for who you are.

I guess its the principle of the thing

There's nothing wrong with being gay! It's been well documented in over 400 species of animals, after all (including some adorable penguins).

too right, I'm afraid most of those that have problems with others being homosexual, often have problems dealing with their own desires.

100% agree!