Could Autism Speaks be part of the New World Order???

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Everyone abuses their system, its a survival mechanism, the people at the top are not doing anything diffrent to everyone else, just on a bigger scale, imo

You realize that Malthus is universally recognized as a crank? He's held up in textbooks as a quintessential example of someone making wrong predictions.

I know he's fallen out of favour. Unfortunately I haven't read anything by him, just heard quotes from other people and listened to the arguments. I look at this society breeding uncontrollably and I don't see a happy outcome - smart people have saved the dumb people's arses but they'll come a time when they run out of ideas or space (If we could properly conquer space and colonize other worlds, then this folly would only lead to a reduced population on Earth or if the struggle for resources went nuclear (desperate times lead to desperate (and insane/ suicidal) measures), then there would be survivors elsewhere, to recolonize the Earth, when it finally recovered: I could say more on this but it ties in with my theory about Accumulation and Discharge as a natural Cycle in nearly everything that happens in the World (see Revised Systemic Universe Theory in this forum) plus the belief about this world being populated in the past by other civilizations, some of them seemingly alien (Von Daniken et al).

People in developed countries are breeding below the replacement rate, and it is expected that overall global population will level off and stop growing relatively soon. Already some countries (most notably Russia) are facing dramatically declining populations.

The claims of Malthusians are empirically false.

That is complete rubbish, population is NOT expected to level off at all, and neither are any developing nations having less births than deaths, the opposite infact, population is expected to exceed the capacity of earths resources within 25 years, unless we start making some drastic changes to the way we live, or go2 war again

perhaps this will clear up your mistaken ideas about population

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypyASU8Aik

there are 6 parts, the last 20mins deals with the numbers

Read more carefully. And yes, global population is expected to level off. Births rates have been declining for some time, and are expected to continue doing so (we have population growth now primarily because of decreasing death rates).



Youtube videos are sh***y sources. Give me a link to a credible academic paper that says the UN predictions are wrong.

It is a highly credible documentry by Sir David Attenbourgh, actually. I dont know where you are getting your figures from, but someone is lieing to you.

All of us on PPR are pretty high functioning.

I have an autistic niece who is in the moderate spectrum. It is very challenging. I know she isn't happy unless she is doing her own thing. I hope she pulls through, but my sister has had a very hard time. If she were my daughter, I wouldn't be on here. I'd be too busy. I know the consequences of low autism. I know the consequences of high autism. I think the low autistics need respect as they are part of humanity and the whole evolutionary process of consciousness.

I would rather have not been born. I said that to my parents many times. It wasn't their fault, but since I am here, I must make the best of it and I can only hope that other people will try to find the best in me as well. We have to conform to each other, all of us, in order to find meaning in life.

Attenborough has an agenda to promote. Besides that, he lacks the necessary mathematical background to make authoritative claims on population growth. Lastly, I have never seen a documentary that wasn't absolute garbage.

Yes they are.

Maybe what you are trying to say is that we all have an influence in this world.
That is true.
Then do what you think you have to do to make it better.
An advice though, legitimizing the State and its procedures will not make the earth a better place, unless you think humans are property to own and slaves to work for others.

Doing something different, or on a bigger scale?



That is a fact, for the State only does anything at the point of a gun.

Doing different things(what was bolded).

"Things on a bigger scale" can be applied to any instance when it comes to human action.
For example: A man has to kill 3 trees(living things) to build a house. Another man has to kill 3 people(living things) to take their land and plant soy.
The latter was doing things "on a bigger scale" or something different or both?
When you do something "on a bigger scale" you are doing something different nevertheless.
I personally would omit this argument when it comes to legitimizing the actions of a particular group, regardless of the nature of the actions.

We know powerful and ultra-rich people are doing it for their survival, miszt is stating the obvious, but it seems to me that miszt is legitimizing the State because he does not put an emphasis on the fact that the actions of these "people at the top" compromises the survival, the happiness, of thousands of others.

The only things you can prevent are the one you believe will occur because you act to stop them occurring. If you do not believe something is true (will happen) then you will stand by and do nothing, which will allow the evidence to unfold. Think of this with regards to birth rate or anything else.

Another thing about being considered a crank. This is an emotional reaction, aimed at dismissing something or someone - it is not a reasonable reaction that looks at something or somebody neutrally (scientifically). It is a fashion statement as is is all prejudice (Fashion is in one year and out the other). It isn't allowing somebody to make up their own mind from the evidence but trying to intimidate them into going your way and not their own (behind this is fear and denial because it tries to force conformism as opposed to allowing individual freedom to chose)

This is true. Based on current evidence, I'm quite confident that the problem of population growth will resolve itself as we continue on current societal trends. There are other issues which demand more attention, such as energy consumption and resource use.


Well, Malthus has been wrong for a couple hundred years, and he's going to continue to be wrong. Yes, I am dismissive of Malthus, the same way any rational person is dismissive of a variety of sources they recognize as not worth the effort of an in-depth refutation.

On the face of it, Malthus had a reasonable case in the 19 th century. But technology in the area of food production and birth control has served to refute is pessimistic premise. Malthus was not being absurd, but things developed in a way that neither Malthus or anyone else could have predicted in the early or middle 19th century. Let us just say Malthus was wrong. He was not being silly.

ruveyn

thats just the way our society has evolved, my opinion on it is irrelevant, but one day, if we can survive long enough, I hope that it will change

as it is at the moment, we have no other option, except to focus on what WE do, its far to easy to blame someone else, the government, the system, whatever, but we you cannot change anyone elses mind about someting, except our own (debatably...but thats another philosphical question altogether! lol)

you know the saying 'it takes one to know one'?

I think that is a highly perceptive view of Human behaviour, on an individual level and group/society level, we see ourselves reflected in the world, so the way you see yourself has a massive impact on the way you percieve everything around you; if you feel s**t, you will see a s**t world; if you feel loved, you will see more of the beauty that comes from it.

You may believe that such a shift in perception is irrelevant, because it doesnt actually change the world, well there are billions of Buddhists all over the planet that would disagree with you, Cause and Effect; if you make a small change in yourself, who knows what good can come of it....and either way, it's the only thing you have ANY control over, so surely thats the best place to focus?

just how I see things, there are many things I dont like about this world, inequality being the biggest issue for me, but any time I become angry or frustrated at somebody for being 'stupid' or whatever, I am just perpetuating a cycle of inequality, because people cannot help being stupid or whatever, infact calling someone stupid, in itself is creating a divide, with me unequaly 'at the top'.

Edit: I think you are completly misinterprating me if you have come to the conclusion that I think its a good thing for people to survive off the suffering of others!! !! !! !! !