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24 Oct 2011, 4:36 pm

When the new laws get passed, they will have to wait until they are 16 (or is it 18?).

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24 Oct 2011, 4:36 pm

lilypadfad wrote:

Ruveyn, it's tough to admit you may have seriously and permanently wronged your offspring, but the cycle has to end somewhere. Give up the wick nonsense, and make sure no more of your descendants get cut.

Nonsense. I improved their lot in life. A clean wick is a happy better wick. None of my males children shall ever know the Curse of Smegma.

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24 Oct 2011, 4:38 pm

ruveyn wrote:

peebo wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

peebo wrote:

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anecdotal evidence suggests that adult circumcision can result in a reduction in penile length of up to 2 inches, so this is untrue on a number of counts, i'm afraid.

It ain't length. It is diameter. And the skill to use it.

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again, an overwhelming amount of anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise.

Scientifically, anecdotal evidence is worth sh*t. Is there a scientific study backing up this canard.

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given the subjective nature of the topic, there would only really be anecdotal evidence, no? for instance, scientifically which is better, vanilla or chocolate ice cream? it's a bit ridiculous to demand robust scientific evidence on the topic of penis size. besides, i was being somewhat facetious.

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24 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

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given the subjective nature of the topic, there would only really be anecdotal evidence, no? for instance, scientifically which is better, vanilla or chocolate ice cream? it's a bit ridiculous to demand robust scientific evidence on the topic of penis size. besides, i was being somewhat facetious.

Forget about it. If it is not scientific it is nonsense.

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24 Oct 2011, 4:40 pm

My hands keep getting dirty. Should I cut them off? :roll:

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24 Oct 2011, 4:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:

lilypadfad wrote:

Nonsense. I improved their lot in life. A clean wick is a happy better wick. None of my males children shall ever know the Curse of Smegma.

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it ain't that bad. as many people have stated, it's only really a problem for those who have personal hygiene issues.

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24 Oct 2011, 4:42 pm

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My hands keep getting dirty. Should I cut them off? :roll:

I don't know. They are your hands, not mine.

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24 Oct 2011, 4:44 pm

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My hands keep getting dirty. Should I cut them off? :roll:

Then wash your hands with soap and water :lol:

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24 Oct 2011, 4:46 pm

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My hands keep getting dirty. Should I cut them off? :roll:

exactly. the idea that it's a good think to mutilate one's genitalia in an effort to keep it clean is completely absurd.

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24 Oct 2011, 6:06 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Nonsense. I improved their lot in life. A clean wick is a happy better wick. None of my males children shall ever know the Curse of Smegma.

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You actually improved nothing, you fortunately caused no harm but you did indirectly cause severe physical pain to your offspring.
The smegma issue has already been thoroughly dismissed so I don't know why you keep bringing it up.

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24 Oct 2011, 6:13 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

Nonsense. I improved their lot in life. A clean wick is a happy better wick. None of my males children shall ever know the Curse of Smegma.

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I do not remmeber being in any pain when I was circumcised because I was a baby when I was circmcised.

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24 Oct 2011, 6:29 pm

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I do not remmeber being in any pain when I was circumcised because I was a baby when I was circmcised.

So you consider inflicting pain on infants acceptable because they won't remember it later in life?

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24 Oct 2011, 7:51 pm

Lecks wrote:

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I do not remmeber being in any pain when I was circumcised because I was a baby when I was circmcised.

So you consider inflicting pain on infants acceptable because they won't remember it later in life?

I have been to several brisses where the young male infant fell asleep while mohale trimmed him. Infants of age 8 days have very low pain awareness. I have only seen one briss where the infant cried and I was not sure whether he had gas or felt pain from the operation.

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24 Oct 2011, 7:55 pm

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Yea, it's the equivelant of that.

Personally I think that any woman who supports male circumicision yet againt female circumicision is being hypocrite.

And the circ'ed man who supports it is being delusional.

Hehe women are notoriously unsympathetic. LKL, have you ever seen a video of a baby boy being circumcised? It's pretty brutal. There are some theories that say such a traumatic event early in life might have lasting psychological effects. Honestly, when it comes to the pain inflicted and the loss of sexual sensation, I think it's on par with female circumcision.

a)I work in a hospital. We do all kinds of horrible things to all kinds of people, starting with newborn infants and progressing to people literally on their deathbeds. I personally participate in a lot of it (though I don't participate in circimcision). I restate, though, that I don't think I should pretend to have a deciding stake in the issue; if I were to have a son, I'd let his theoretical father make the final decision on the matter.
b)you'd be wrong. Female circumcision often involves the removal of the entire clitoris, sometimes even digging down to get at the nerve roots. The male equivalent to that would be lopping off the entire head of the penis. Milder forms of female circumcision involve removing the hood of the clitoris; that's the equivalent procedure to male circumcision. The entire point of female circumcision, though, is to make sex unpleasant or at least not pleasurable, in order to disincentivise women from having sex with anyone other than the man legally entitled to force her to have sex with him. Men, on the other hand, seem to be just as randy circumcised and uncircumcised.

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24 Oct 2011, 8:00 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Lecks wrote:

The aesthetic arguement only works when discussing adult males and even then I'd be personally opposed to it. It's never a good thing to force unnatural physical expectations and when it's forced on infants it crosses the line to immoral.

Loving parents hire men in white coats to stick needles into the flesh of their infants. How natural is that?

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And women in white coats. And, don't forget, the mothers are stuck with needles frequently just on the way to giving birth, and they pay for that too. Not only that, but people pay to literally be cut up with very sharp knives in hospitals! Not only that, but it's a major political debate right now whether or not being stuck with needles and cut up with sharp knives in hospitals is a basic human right.

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24 Oct 2011, 9:05 pm

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Very well, pain isn't always involved in the process. That still leaves lack of consent and unnecessary procedure.

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