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21 Jan 2018, 6:53 pm

I came from a mostly hillbilly family. Well, nowadays only a few still are.

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21 Jan 2018, 6:59 pm

My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

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21 Jan 2018, 7:03 pm

Wikipedia wrote:

Hillbilly is a term (often derogatory) for people who dwell in rural, mountainous areas in the United States, primarily in Appalachia and the Ozarks. The first known instances of "hillbilly" in print were in The Railroad Trainmen's Journal (vol. ix, July 1892),[1] an 1899 photograph of men and women in West Virginia labeled "Camp Hillbilly",[2] and a 1900 New York Journal article containing the definition: "a Hill-Billie is a free and untrammeled white citizen of Tennessee, who lives in the hills, has no means to speak of, dresses as he can, talks as he pleases, drinks whiskey when he gets it, and fires off his revolver as the fancy takes him".[3] The stereotype is twofold in that it incorporates both positive and negative traits: "Hillbillies" are often considered independent and self-reliant individuals who resist the modernization of society, but at the same time they are also defined as backward and violent. Scholars argue this duality is reflective of the split ethnic identities in white America.[4]

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The term redneck is a derogatory term chiefly used for a rural poor white person of the Southern United States.[1][2] Its usage is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia, Texas,[1] and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).[4][5][6]

By the 1970s, the term had become offensive slang, and its meaning had expanded to mean bigoted, loutish, and opposed to modern ways.[7]

Patrick Huber has emphasized the theme of masculinity in the continued expansion of the term in the 20th century, noting, "The redneck has been stereotyped in the media and popular culture as a poor, dirty, uneducated, and racist Southern white man.

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21 Jan 2018, 8:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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I’m a hillbilly,sixth generation Ozarker and proud of it.

I always thought that hillbilly didn't have the negative connotation that redneck does.

I'm pretty sure both can have negative connotations, but don't always depending on context.

I'm pretty sure both refer to largely Ulster Scots, Irish and Scottish settlers and their descendents, with 'hillbilly' referring more specifically to those in the Appalachians, Ozarks, etc and 'redneck' more generally referring to them (hillbillies are rednecks, but not all rednecks are hillbillies). Both terms often don't specifically include the 'ethnic' portion, but the subcultures are still dominated by people of those extractions.

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21 Jan 2018, 9:24 pm

Why all the hate for hillbillies? How could anyone hate Jed Clampett?

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21 Jan 2018, 9:42 pm

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22 Jan 2018, 12:14 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

We can make you an honorary one.But first you have to climb in a cage with a bobcat and fight it with an old timer knife.

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22 Jan 2018, 1:13 pm

Rakkety_Tamm wrote:

In light of sterotypes being used in both the chat's and the boards, I thought I might as well clear this up for yall.

Redneck: A person from the South-East United States (predominitly, but also found elsewhere. Proud of there heritage, can be any color, and are NOT racists, neo-cons, etc. Is known to fly the Rebel flag, but to celebrate heritage, and not hate.

Hillbilly: A person who is known as a racist, drunkerd, and over... not a very nice person. Does not recogonnize the United States Government, instead, refuses to let the old Conferate States of America die.

I hope this clears up some pre-dispositions....

Rednecks are most certainly NOT confined to the South East USA. They exist all over the USA, and Canada too, Alberta in particular.

A Hillbilly is technically only someone from the hills of Tennessee.

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22 Jan 2018, 5:31 pm

Misslizard wrote:

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My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

We can make you an honorary one.But first you have to climb in a cage with a bobcat and fight it with an old timer knife.

It should increase his hillbilly cred because many American hillbillies are descended from highland Scots.

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22 Jan 2018, 5:33 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:

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Then what do you call someone from the hills of Kentucky?

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22 Jan 2018, 10:01 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

We can make you an honorary one.But first you have to climb in a cage with a bobcat and fight it with an old timer knife.

It should increase his hillbilly cred because many American hillbillies are descended from highland Scots.

Definetly lots of Scotch influence,the dialect is heavy on the "r"s.I had some jerk from Conneticut make fun of the way I say orange,it's pronounced "ar-nge" here.Like a pirate would say.lol

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23 Jan 2018, 1:35 am

Misslizard wrote:

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Misslizard wrote:

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

We can make you an honorary one.But first you have to climb in a cage with a bobcat and fight it with an old timer knife.

It should increase his hillbilly cred because many American hillbillies are descended from highland Scots.

Definetly lots of Scotch influence,the dialect is heavy on the "r"s.I had some jerk from Conneticut make fun of the way I say orange,it's pronounced "ar-nge" here.Like a pirate would say.lol

Yes, the highland Scots, and the Scotch-Irish (the Protestant folks of Northern Ireland are the "Scotch Irish") spearheaded the settlement of the American South. So both the hillbilly, and redneck cultures are to some extent based on the Scotch and Scotch Irish cultures. Many country singers were of Scotch Irish descent, from Moon Mullican, to Reba MacIntire.

Country singer Ricky Skaggs did an album with the Chieftans. One of the Chieftans was amazed that his Kentucky style of fiddle playing was "just like the way we do it Donegal!".

One historian has even opined that the American Civil War was really just an extension of the ancient British Isles conflict between the Anglo Saxons and the Celts (the North being the extension of Anglosaxon England, and the South being Celtic dominated). Dunno bout that. But it is interesting to note that the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (the stars and bars) is based upon the Scottish Flag (which is based upon the Cross of St. Andrew).

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23 Jan 2018, 2:19 am

"The Beverly Hillbillies, portrayed the "hillbilly" as backwards but with enough wisdom to outwit more sophisticated city folk".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly

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23 Jan 2018, 11:46 am

naturalplastic wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

My ancestors lived in the Scottish highlands. Does that count?

We can make you an honorary one.But first you have to climb in a cage with a bobcat and fight it with an old timer knife.

It should increase his hillbilly cred because many American hillbillies are descended from highland Scots.

Definetly lots of Scotch influence,the dialect is heavy on the "r"s.I had some jerk from Conneticut make fun of the way I say orange,it's pronounced "ar-nge" here.Like a pirate would say.lol

Some of the old ballads came over and were preserved.Many of the folks beliefs are very similar.
I found this to be a really good read on the subject.https://g.co/kgs/fFj3aq
I traced my family to Cullybacky,County Antrim then onto the Kintyre Pinnsula.
I can see where that could apply to the civil war in certain areas.Most of the surnames here are Scotch -Irish and there is still a strong belief in states rights and that the government should keep out of your business.
Years ago this area was up for consideration to be a UN world heritage site.A biosphere preserve.Talk about a backlash from the locals.People have a fear and mistrust of the government or somebody grabbing their land.The UN backed down lol.
Park Service is generally hated by all here.That goes back to the Buffalo National River.I agree it should have been preserved,but they tossed old folks off their land and seized the property.There was lots of bad blood for years after that.Burnouts and all kind of reprisal.People even accuse the Park off tossing out mountain lions and diamond back rattlers.Lol

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23 Jan 2018, 11:51 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

"The Beverly Hillbillies, portrayed the "hillbilly" as backwards but with enough wisdom to outwit more sophisticated city folk".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly

That kinda makes sense.

Most people, even people who seem stupid, have at least one area of expertise.

Most hillbillies are probably experts at agriculture and firearm maintenance, though they tend to be ultracrepidarians in the world of politics.

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23 Jan 2018, 12:03 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

"The Beverly Hillbillies, portrayed the "hillbilly" as backwards but with enough wisdom to outwit more sophisticated city folk".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly

Whoever did the research on folk cures and lore for that show was spot on.Except for the food,then it was just silly.Nobody eats gopher gravy or pickled crow eggs.Squirrel gravy,grits and jowl, and pickled eggs yes.
Newcomers here are usually a prime target,it's good to catch someone from Cali fresh off the plane and sell them a piece of land at triple the going rate.They think they got a sweet deal.lol Hillbilly laughs all the way to the bank.

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