Christian Communists: The political party of the future!

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I trust establishments, but not absolutely. Truth be told, there are very few things I trust absolutely. Being optimistic is not the same as being passive or ignorant. Being optmistic isn't the same as denying the reality of scary things. I know you won't take my word for it, so can I suggest a WP poll on the subject? One opinion is never enough to decide a thing for yourself.

sure, go ahead. But you shouldn't accept the validity of a statement by how many people agree with you though. That's just herd mentality.
Maybe your not one of the typical apathetic optimists, I don't know you that well personally. But for many people, it is a precursor to total apathy, delusion, and denial. You might be an exception to that. What I was referring to, are overly optimistic people.

Excessive optimism is a form of stupidity, but not apathy. An apathetic might consider how things are good, but just not give a damn. Someone wearing rose-coloured glasses cares about stuff & junk, obviously, but is incapable of seeing the negative side of things. Ned Flanders is a classic example of this. He's a Christian, but that's incidental to his attitude regarding stuff & junk in general. A lot of Christian believers are miserable, pessimistic souls.

That's Stalinism.....

Plenty of brands of communism don't 'worship' 1 leader (Council Communism, Marxism, Trotskyism, etc.)

Say what you will, but communism is no damn greatful dead concert, no free love and peace pipes passed around in the gulags. Communism only ends up one way, violent oppression and murder of the people, slavery of the working class (and because it's painted in a way of "uniting the working class", people are stupid enough to believe it's some form of "power for the people").
Those same uber-lefite commies have been known to go around sporting Che Guavera on their shirts. And Karl Marx was no humanitarian. I think all this pro-communism s**t is just pure blind leftie sensationalism. Why the hell do we honor murderers and tyrants? And now we're treating it like damn woodstock. I mean, f*****g hell, get real.

What you pretend communism is, is in actuallity called anarchy. Anarchy is not "disorganized chaos", true anarchy is organized. Along a small community or tribal level. It takes the good parts of democracy and communism, and throws out the bad parts..... So it's more of a tribalistic hybrid of democracy and communism. Money is not used, but barter is. There is no sociological ranking ladder, leaders are "delegated" by their people, and can be removed or overthrown at any time should they become inefficient or corrupt. Major decisions are always discussed among the community or tribe, and in some tribes if so much as 1 member disagreed on a decision they wouldn't go through with it.

Snake, are you talking about tribalism? Like the Native Indians and Pre-Meiji Japan?

Yeah, tribalism. Not like the Aztecs, Aztecs were violent conquerors, but many Native American tribes were untouched by this system for many generations until the Masonic machine came along and swept them off their land (now days even those tribes have likely been infiltrated and sold out, everything does eventually)... There were many very peaceful tribes too. It was that double speak, the masonic double speak ("freedom is slavery", "ignorance is strength", etc) that's what the Natives meant when they said "white man speaks with forked toungue"...... The big boys are very good liars. They could lie and pass a lie detector no problem. That's how good they are, because it's a characteristic of a psychopath. And psychopaths do not have a conscience. However, they can pretend to. Humans are THE most studied creatures on the planet, been studied for a very very long time too. Psychopaths run this system because it was created by psychopaths, for psychopaths. Hince why psychopathic traits get you further in this system. They know very well how to manipulate peoples' emotions and blind them with their emotions even.

So the Natives were spewing Masonic phrases before they knew who the Masons were? A system by and for pyschopaths? I doubt it. Religion may be a business-plan, but Masonry would have to be one too, then, wouldn't it?

The Masons give themselves an awful lot of credit for everything, don't you think? With you it's Mason-this, big boyz-that, all the time. I would say you've soaked up every drop of Masonic doctrine your mind can hold, and now you're just dripping with it. Having your own belief-system is fine, but don't try to discredit the beliefs of others based on what you go by.

BTW you've yet to give me any biographical data on the big boyz.

Biographical data? Theyr international? In fact, they've got people in every "culture" across the world. There is nothing they will not infiltrate and take over. One thing about a psychopath, is they are totally obsessed with power and control. It's the psychopathic mind.
No, the Natives weren't "spewing masonic doctrines before they knew what the Masons were", for a long time they were the ONLY people who resisted masonic rules. But eventually they like everyone else were infiltrated and manipulated. Say what you will, it's not like I'm "following the conspiracy theorist label" so much as I am digging up information. But it is an open conspiracy, this has long been admitted by many famous scientists, historical figures, religious leaders, etc etc down through history.

Snake, if our positions were reversed, would you just take
my word for everything stated here? You speak so vigorously about proof, proof, the absolute necessity of proof. Yet you have none to back up your own claims. What you do have are ambiguities that don't really prove anything. This shadowy brotherhood of psychopaths will not cut it with me.

You say you "learned on your own" what you claim to know. How would you describe this process of self-learning? An impressive list of selected readings, would be my guess. But even then, wouldn't every body of information be totally subject to interpretation?

Big Tobacco has the same facts as the medical community, yet choose to adopt a contary perspective. Big Oil and the people in Washington who "suppress" global warming do the same. And that's a conspiracy I can believe in.

Bohamian Grove:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sCDs9Vs2iYM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pRjKyUYKfG4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=URimMtIwDoY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnpFfBMgfKU

When they were reported worshipping the monument of the owl? That is their "mystery religion", sun worship/nature worship.

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Back in NAZI Germany Days they had their cults too, we have Skull and Bones, they had the Thule group, Golden Dawn (which Hitler and Napolean belonged to in their early years), Electric Hellfire Clubs. Look into secret societies, rosicrucians, masons, freemasons.

Also look at political organizations such as Builderbergers, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Council on Foreign Affairs, hell the world bank. They run it all dude.

I understand about all these secret sinister groups, but I don't care. So what?

Any conspiracy nut that claims the Freemasons are part of some evil global conspiracy automatically loses the argument.

Willpower. That's your answer in one word.