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04 Apr 2012, 10:17 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y575x7hdrv4[/youtube]


Great song.


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04 Apr 2012, 2:47 pm

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I would play a certain rap song here, but it's got swearing in it. :lol:

Hint: it's got 'power' in the title. :lol:

I hate to sound stupid here, but I don't follow music in general or rap specifically very much. Would you mind telling me the title?


'Fight the Power' - Public Enemy


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[youtube]Mod edit: deleted for swearing.[/youtube]


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07 Apr 2012, 2:16 pm

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Oh, look!
We've fallen down a rabbithole of circlejerkery instead of discussing which feminist ideas/individuals/writings/issues/organizations people object to/support, and why.

~insert FIFTY EIGHT MORE pages of garbage~


Support: Women working for basic human rights in the third world.

Against: Everything else.


1. So you are against forms of discrimination against women in non third world countries.

2. You are agaisnt allowing women to have abortions in non third world countries.

3. You are against women working for basic human rights in America and other non third world countries.

4. You are against protecting women and girls from domestic violence, sexual harassment, and sexual assault in non third world countries

5. You are against equal pay for women in non third world countries.

6. You are against women's rights in non third world countries,

So since you are only for womens basic human right in ONLY third world countries you fail to see that you are then against their basic human rights in NON third world countries.


They already have their human rights in non-third world countries, so feminism can close its chapters in these areas and double down on the places where they are really needed, namely the third world.


Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.



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07 Apr 2012, 4:10 pm

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Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please. Quite frankly, I'd pay $100 to watch Hyperlexican and Valentine beat the s**t out of eachother, bare knuckles, MMA or socket wrenches, I just want to see those 2 go 12 rounds in a cage.



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07 Apr 2012, 4:12 pm

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Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please.


I did and I don't agree with this cause my brother spends more then my mother does and btw she is very conerative with her money you are making a generalziation that all women spend more moeny then men.



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07 Apr 2012, 4:30 pm

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Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please.


I did and I don't agree with this cause my brother spends more then my mother does and btw she is very conerative with her money you are making a generalziation that all women spend more moeny then men.


I'm only going to say this once; you family is completely and utterly inconsequential in this statistic. Stop with the bloody "This one time, in my family" stories and stick to FACTS not ANECDOTES.



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07 Apr 2012, 4:39 pm

TM wrote:
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Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please.


I did and I don't agree with this cause my brother spends more then my mother does and btw she is very conerative with her money you are making a generalziation that all women spend more moeny then men.


I'm only going to say this once; you family is completely and utterly inconsequential in this statistic. Stop with the bloody "This one time, in my family" stories and stick to FACTS not ANECDOTES.


These are not facts you are making generalziations engards to women as a whole :roll:



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07 Apr 2012, 4:54 pm

Joker wrote:
TM wrote:
Joker wrote:
TM wrote:
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Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please.


I did and I don't agree with this cause my brother spends more then my mother does and btw she is very conerative with her money you are making a generalziation that all women spend more moeny then men.


I'm only going to say this once; you family is completely and utterly inconsequential in this statistic. Stop with the bloody "This one time, in my family" stories and stick to FACTS not ANECDOTES.


These are not facts you are making generalziations engards to women as a whole :roll:


No, the picture I linked contains a ton of statistics, not from me but by government agencies and other independent sources. On both how much women spend and how much they earn.

I did not generalize about women's spending habits, the people who compiled the statistical data I linked drew conclusions based on independently verifiable facts.

http://www.inc.com/articles/2003/01/25019.html

There you go, your mom is not every women, you are the one generalizing based on your mother in your eyes being a sort of Gloria Steinem crossed with the Virgin Mary.



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07 Apr 2012, 5:03 pm

TM wrote:
Joker wrote:
TM wrote:
Joker wrote:
TM wrote:
Joker wrote:
Not in regards to being payed equal to a man in the work place. Or in sports such as MMA where it is dominated by men yet the do not like it when female MMA fighters beat each other up.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg read the part about gender paygap please.


I did and I don't agree with this cause my brother spends more then my mother does and btw she is very conerative with her money you are making a generalziation that all women spend more moeny then men.


I'm only going to say this once; you family is completely and utterly inconsequential in this statistic. Stop with the bloody "This one time, in my family" stories and stick to FACTS not ANECDOTES.


These are not facts you are making generalziations engards to women as a whole :roll:


No, the picture I linked contains a ton of statistics, not from me but by government agencies and other independent sources. On both how much women spend and how much they earn.

I did not generalize about women's spending habits, the people who compiled the statistical data I linked drew conclusions based on independently verifiable facts.

http://www.inc.com/articles/2003/01/25019.html

There you go, your mom is not every women, you are the one generalizing based on your mother in your eyes being a sort of Gloria Steinem crossed with the Virgin Mary.


She is more like Landgravine Friederike of Hesse-Darmstadt crossed with Louise Augusta, Queen of Prussia.

I am sorry for saying that I mean this I can't really agree with statistics if none of them come from a females point of view. If the statitics or data was gathered up mostly by men then it is bais to me.



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07 Apr 2012, 5:07 pm

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She is more like Landgravine Friederike of Hesse-Darmstadt crossed with Louise Augusta, Queen of Prussia.

I am sorry for saying that I mean this I can't really agree with statistics if none of them come from a females point of view. If the statitics or data was gathered up mostly by men then it is bais to me.


In that case, every statistic is disqualified based on that if it's collected by females its bias one way and by males another way.

Funnily enough, the article is written by 2 women, so I guess those two are just self loathing women then.



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07 Apr 2012, 5:13 pm

TM wrote:
Joker wrote:

She is more like Landgravine Friederike of Hesse-Darmstadt crossed with Louise Augusta, Queen of Prussia.

I am sorry for saying that I mean this I can't really agree with statistics if none of them come from a females point of view. If the statitics or data was gathered up mostly by men then it is bais to me.


In that case, every statistic is disqualified based on that if it's collected by females its bias one way and by males another way.

Funnily enough, the article is written by 2 women, so I guess those two are just self loathing women then.


I think you need a cominataion of both men and women statstics so both can reach common ground on issues they both face which they do I just let me female persona do must ot the thinking more then I should. I how ever disagree that men are not going to love their children as much as women do. Or that singel fathers are often unfit parents in the eyes of radical feminists.

BTW if you are interested here is a link telling you about the life of Louise Augusta, Queen of Prussia
http://www.batguano.com/xqueenofprussia.html



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07 Apr 2012, 7:45 pm

In most households, the running of the household is done by the woman: she does the grocery shopping and errands, she buys clothing and christmas presents for the children and relatives, so she spends the money necessary to support the household in a combined-income household. Ergo, women spend more than they earn. :roll:

If you support equal spending for equal earnings, become a feminist and advocate for men to do more of the family shopping and errands.



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07 Apr 2012, 7:49 pm

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In most households, the running of the household is done by the woman: she does the grocery shopping and errands, she buys clothing and christmas presents for the children and relatives, so she spends the money necessary to support the household in a combined-income household. Ergo, women spend more than they earn. :roll:

If you support equal spending for equal earnings, become a feminist and advocate for men to do more of the family shopping and errands.


Pretty much this (^)



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07 Apr 2012, 8:25 pm

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If you support equal spending for equal earnings, become a feminist and advocate for men to do more of the family shopping and errands.
If you also support democracy, become a God-fearing soldier and advocate for the Neo-con ideal of freedom, which is the one and only definition of it!



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07 Apr 2012, 8:52 pm

LKL wrote:
In most households, the running of the household is done by the woman: she does the grocery shopping and errands, she buys clothing and christmas presents for the children and relatives, so she spends the money necessary to support the household in a combined-income household. Ergo, women spend more than they earn. :roll:

If you support equal spending for equal earnings, become a feminist and advocate for men to do more of the family shopping and errands.


The interesting thing about that is that according to the 2010 consumer spending survey those expenses only made up about 31% of total household expenses and that includes:

Food (both at home and away), apparel, entertainment, cash contributions, and the misc "all other expenditures post"

The other major expenses were: housing at 34,4%, insurrence and pensions at 11%, healthcare at about 6,5%. So your assumption there doesn't add up, literally.

I mean, in order for women to hit the spending number in question they would have to do:
Food (both at home and away), apparel, entertainment, cash contributions, and the misc "all other expenditures post" at 31%, then they would have to take an additional 54% of household spending, which accounts for $25978,86 or the cost of housing + transportation and about 52% of total healthcare cost.

Even if you attribute all costs except for housing to women that still only puts women at 65,5% of household expenditures.

As I said in the other thread, leave the word "feminist" with the bra burners in the 60s and 70s and move into a new era under a banner of "Human rights for all" or simply "Humanist" its much more inclusive that way and doesn't have all that baggage. Don't think of it as letting go of an outdated ideology, think of it as re-branding.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_n ... x_2_12.htm