Is Christianity Truly Compatible with Capitalism?

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This is the kind of ignorance that makes the Gospels a veritable well spring of Jew hatred.

Luke 6 wrote:

But how terrible for you who are rich now;
you have had your easy life!
How terrible for you who are full now;
you will go hungry!
How terrible for you who laugh now;
you will mourn and weep!

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Damn! That's class warfare, straight up. How can Christians claim their Lord and Savior was without sin with that kind of angry leftist vitriol? The son of God obviously envies those who worked harder and were thus more successful than he was.

I mean, he goes further than even the biggest sniveling liberal on this forum. The rich man should be eternally damned for the sin of having too easy a life! I mean, that verse doesn't even imply there was any wrongfulness in the way the rich man acquired his wealth. He is guilty and deserving of punishment just for being harder working and more intelligent than others!

He is guilty and deserving of punishment just for being harder working and more intelligent than others!

The funny part is, that there had been no sacrifices to god anyway. There is no information of a temple visited by god, who took his sacrifices with him on his way. So the sacrificed goods went to the priests anyway. ^^ So as long as its a fair trade, there is no problem. So the people gave away precious goods, they needed for living, and became as exchange: praising. Lets see, Jesus godfather of Christianity praised quiet a lot, but i cant find the part in the book where he tells his followers to sacrifice him precious goods to pay for his praising. So if the sacrifice-payment is unnecessary at all...it seems pretty obvious that the exchange dealers were unnecessary as well. It wasnt the exchange traders alone who made Jesus that angry, but the whole rotten system, which was already based on capitalism.

How can this be a spring for jew hate for a normal sane person? This are things that happened 2000 years ago, so as long as i am not totally sick in the brain how should i believe, that a person living today would be responsible for things that happened 2000 years ago? Did you ever hate yourself because of the crimes of Billy the kid? O_o Another person, another century, same country. So who cares?

If its someones fault, then its not the gospels but an idiot believing in time machines or such things, i dont know otherwise how someone living could be responsible for something happening 200 years ago. -.-




You didnt understand a single thing. Time have not been so different then today. This is not about people working harder: So if you go hatching firewood 6 hours long and another person does it 8 hours long then the other person will have more fire wood. There is nothing unfair about it. But like today, thats not why people are richer than other in most cases. Does a person working 10 hours a day as construction site laborer work less then a person working 10 hours a day in a bank? In 95% nowadays you dont earn more money then others because of working harder then others. I you are a company owner it may be that you work 11h every day and your workers work 10 hours every day. So referring to jesus it is ok, if he got 10% more money then his workers. So i dont know how much the prices are, but i think my Chef jr and my Chef sr. had to work many years to afford their Porsche and Audi sports car if they earned only 10% more then the others workers. So it is not THEIR work, with which they are earning "their" money to pay this car, its the hard work of their workers. (And beside hards working, ive never seen one of our chefs after 18:00.)

Also i dont remember, that Jesus is exhorting someone for buying good they need in the bible. But yes, as a social person it seemed to be wrong for him if someone buyed himself useless goods, while his neighbor, part of the social system who allowed the first one to get rich, is starving. The problem is not about being rich by hard work. The problem is about being rich, by stealing the wage of the people laboring the hard work. Or do you think that top managers are earning 5000 times more than laborer at the bottom because they are working 5000 times more? ^^ Sure, they all got a 9 x 5000 = 45000 hr day. XD There are a few people whose financial success is bound to their own hands work. But most are just thiefs. So as long as the one that got stolen still have enough for living its ok, but in the time Jesus lived people did not have much resources, so matching to the drastic problems that this wrong behavior produced, accordingly Jesus also was very drastic about the responsible people.



And i thought it was because of not sharing. ^^

The thing about the Bible is, it contradicts itself everywhere. You have Jesus saying things that no conservative would EVER want to hear out of a politician's mouth yet they insist on everything being Christian in government. Now, I like Jesus and wish he was here because I think he had great ideas and was willing to help. Put himself into it totally. Christians tend to find other stuff in the Bible that contradicts what Jesus said and go with that, though. Jesus just gets lost. JESUS WAS SOCIALIST IN THE PUREST SENSE OF THE WORLD. Yet so many conservatives will argue with me when I bring that to their attention and say in Matthew a money declaration was made or something. I have yet to read anything Jesus says that contradicts socialism though.

Today's religious conservatives fail to remember that Christ said his kingdom was not of this earth. There's a lot that they fail to remember about Jesus.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

In a word, you had to be dead to enjoy what Jesus offered. That is some deal.

ruveyn

Actually, no. Christ's kingdom is also the inner kingdom of the heart and mind. Where you have two or three gathered in Christ, you've got the kingdom of Christ present.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Christianity is Indifferent to Capitalism.
WTF is the alternative in a heavily populated world full of consumer related needs?

Two or three gathered together -here on Planet Earth-. Guess where that puts the Kingdom.

I suggest a quick refresher course in logic.

ruveyn

In their hearts and minds. The non-believer standing around with the two or three isn't expected to answer to Christ.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Where did you say the Kingdom was?

ruveyn

When Christ said his kingdom was not of this earth, he meant it wasn't an earthly kingdom like Rome. Rather, his kingdom was the church. And in that sense, the church isn't any particular denomination, but rather the invisible church in believer's hearts and minds.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer