Does God want America to become a Mormon country?

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Does God want America to become a Mormon country?
Hell, YES! And I'm voting for Romney! 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Heavens, NO! And I'm voting for a nominal Christian! 26%  26%  [ 14 ]
God doesn't give a damn what happens to America 64%  64%  [ 34 ]
Total votes : 53

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09 Oct 2012, 12:00 pm

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I am here because people are mixing up the three religeons and becuz Mitt Romney is not mormon. He is LDS.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

Romney's Religion per Wikipedia wrote:
Religion: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon)


This is the first I heard of a difference between Mormons and Latter Day Saints. Romney's Wikipedia entry suggests the two terms to be interchangeable.

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And having him as the usa's president would help alot of people.


He will certainly make millionaires even richer. But, he has promised to harm millions of Americans by repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

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If you look through the LDS docterine you would find that alot of it if implemented would help amarica.


How so?

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And the church is almost completly transparent. The only things about it that are closed to the mainstream public are the temples, the members personal info and docteran sealed from those not authorised by God to read or see them


That is one of the weirdest things about your religion. Christians, Buddhists and Hindus are proud to permit tourists to visit their churches and temples. What are the Mormons so ashamed of?

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The LDS church will not force anybody to do anything against their will. I have a few friends that left the church or became inactive.

Aren't you expected to shun them?

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The most the church will do is try to include them in activities and have them talk with our missionarys if they want. And all the money in the church goes to actual needs in or around that church. If you give money to a certain church, only that church will use it. It is completly up to the members of the church wether or not they follow all, just some or almost none of the teachings. I myself dont follow all of them, and the church acepts that.

Which teachings do you reject?



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09 Oct 2012, 12:00 pm

As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK s**t to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That s**t's been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.



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09 Oct 2012, 12:07 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK sh** to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That sh**'s been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.


We do enjoy it. The internet is great for vicious and spirited discussion.

You're wrong though. We are not all one. There are plenty of people in this country who look upon people not of their faith as evil. Others think that they're an island of mediocre success.

The fact that you feel sickened by me makes me feel all warm and whole inside.



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09 Oct 2012, 12:09 pm

Nobody knows what God wants. First, it is not clear that God even exists. Then even given He Exists, there are so many voices claiming to be His prophet and so many scriptures claiming to be His word that vetting these sources is a practical impossibility.

What you can be sure of is hundred, if not thousands of shysters and swindlers are all claiming to be the authentic Voice of the Lord. Do not believe any of them.

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09 Oct 2012, 12:09 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK sh** to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That sh**'s been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.


I think the bit you're missing is that at this juncture, we're arguing for the sheer unholy joy of arguing.


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09 Oct 2012, 12:18 pm

Vulture wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK sh** to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That sh**'s been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.


We do enjoy it. The internet is great for vicious and spirited discussion.

You're wrong though. We are not all one. There are plenty of people in this country who look upon people not of their faith as evil. Others think that they're an island of mediocre success.

The fact that you feel sickened by me makes me feel all warm and whole inside.


... You completely missed what I was trying to say. Yes, we ARE all one. As in, we are ALL humans who are ALL affected by the BS that keeps happening to this country. I'm aware of the fact that not everybody views it that way, but it's the truth, and no amount of denial will change that. I know that people think if you're a different faith, that you're scum or whatever, but I'm trying to stop that. That was my point. But apparently you're having tons of fun not giving a s**t and letting the nation go down the drain. Maybe you'll still be happy when we're a third world country?



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09 Oct 2012, 12:22 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
Vulture wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK sh** to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That sh**'s been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.


We do enjoy it. The internet is great for vicious and spirited discussion.

You're wrong though. We are not all one. There are plenty of people in this country who look upon people not of their faith as evil. Others think that they're an island of mediocre success.

The fact that you feel sickened by me makes me feel all warm and whole inside.


... You completely missed what I was trying to say. Yes, we ARE all one. As in, we are ALL humans who are ALL affected by the BS that keeps happening to this country. I'm aware of the fact that not everybody views it that way, but it's the truth, and no amount of denial will change that. I know that people think if you're a different faith, that you're scum or whatever, but I'm trying to stop that. That was my point. But apparently you're having tons of fun not giving a sh** and letting the nation go down the drain. Maybe you'll still be happy when we're a third world country?


I believe that you're deeply deluded if you think trying to start the social revolution here will defeat the US plutocracy and make Baptites stop hating Catholics and homosexuals.



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09 Oct 2012, 12:35 pm

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DerStadtschutz wrote:
Vulture wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
As usual, the voice of reason goes unnoticed... Joy. Whatever, carry on, fools. Continue to argue and bicker over some stupid religious issue that has JACK sh** to do with running a country. Although that doesn't really matter anyway because the presidency is a joke. That sh**'s been decided already by the elite, but you'll all still sit here and fight one another, get pissed off at each other, and hate each other, just like they want you to. You people sicken me.

I just hope you guys ENJOY the bitching back and forth while your country crumbles around you. We are all one, god damnit, and it doesn't really matter who the president is. The sooner we realize that we're all in the same boat, and our neighbors are NOT our enemies just because they like a different senator than we do, the better off we'll be.


We do enjoy it. The internet is great for vicious and spirited discussion.

You're wrong though. We are not all one. There are plenty of people in this country who look upon people not of their faith as evil. Others think that they're an island of mediocre success.

The fact that you feel sickened by me makes me feel all warm and whole inside.


... You completely missed what I was trying to say. Yes, we ARE all one. As in, we are ALL humans who are ALL affected by the BS that keeps happening to this country. I'm aware of the fact that not everybody views it that way, but it's the truth, and no amount of denial will change that. I know that people think if you're a different faith, that you're scum or whatever, but I'm trying to stop that. That was my point. But apparently you're having tons of fun not giving a sh** and letting the nation go down the drain. Maybe you'll still be happy when we're a third world country?


I believe that you're deeply deluded if you think trying to start the social revolution here will defeat the US plutocracy and make Baptites stop hating Catholics and homosexuals.


I never said that... I can only do so much at a time, but not saying anything sure as hell isn't going to help, now is it?



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10 Oct 2012, 8:27 am

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10 Oct 2012, 8:29 am

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29 Oct 2012, 10:05 am

I would take the approaching hurricane as an indisputable sign that God absolutely does not want a Mormon president.



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29 Oct 2012, 11:51 am

First of all we do not live in ancient biblical times when polygamy was acceptable. Women are liberated and if a man wants 2 wives then a woman will want 2 husbands. If a man does not wish to share his wife then monogamy will be the only solution. If a man insists on having a mistress his marriage will most likely end up in divorce because today women have a right to divorce and are simply unwilling to share their husbands especially if a man is unwilling to share his wife. Polygamy is no real solution because there is simply not enough women in the world for everyone to have 2 wives.

Free love will be the direction we are heading in but that would mean that we would all be one big family.



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29 Oct 2012, 1:27 pm

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First of all we do not live in ancient biblical times when polygamy was acceptable. Women are liberated and if a man wants 2 wives then a woman will want 2 husbands. If a man does not wish to share his wife then monogamy will be the only solution. If a man insists on having a mistress his marriage will most likely end up in divorce because today women have a right to divorce and are simply unwilling to share their husbands especially if a man is unwilling to share his wife. Polygamy is no real solution because there is simply not enough women in the world for everyone to have 2 wives.

Free love will be the direction we are heading in but that would mean that we would all be one big family.


That would certainly leave a lot of men alone, were polygamy in practice.

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29 Oct 2012, 5:15 pm

There is polygamy in some countries. I don't know how many guys end up wifeless. It may have made more sense when lots of men died in battle, or when the winners could keep for themselves the losers women.



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29 Oct 2012, 5:28 pm

In ancient times a lot of men did die in battles so polygamy was accepted. But now we strive to live in an age of peace so polygamy is now becoming more obsolete.



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29 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

After seeing all this pointless bickering, I've come to the simple conclusion that if there was a deity whose parthenon I were to call home, I think they would prefer the less selfish of the two; the one who is clearly trying to help and doesn't have multiple houses to their name with butlers and maids to boot, and yet has to fight a congress full of clowns who have stated that they simply want to make it a goal to stop him. I'd pray to the Golden Goddesses of Hyrule that he has a much better time in his upcoming reign. However, I'd leave Hylia out of those prayers, because she proved herself useless when it came to managing a single segment of the world and isn't exactly mentioned in future historia or materials.

...I suppose that's more an issue because the writers of the mythos shoehorned her after having written out the rest of their timeline, instead of placing that story as an 'What if' or 'Alternately' to the greatest tale of the Hero of the Winds, where its placement would make sense, as instead of flooding Hyrule, they could have let it be and that would better account for the fallow state of the land and the mutations of the people.

But I digress, and conclude.


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