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I was a Mormon for a short time when I in My twenties.

What the heck are you talking about?

We do have African Americans in our church, and we aren't a cult: we have over 1 million members worldwide, and no: anyone can join our church even people who don't have money; this angers me that you don't do your homework!

I'm Mormon and I don't try to convert people. If someone is interested in knowing more about the church, or discussing it...I'll gladly talk to them. But our church has a great social structure (We have many social gatherings a month, that have nothing to do with gospel...they're just social parties) So what you must understand is, if a Mormon invites you to one of these, it is not a conversion attempt, they're just inviting you into their social life

I think my issue with church is that: how one can choose one church over another? Picking and choosing your values? Arent they then YOUR values if you can 'pick and choose' a religion to coincide with them? I could view every religion and associate with them all but I could never state that I agree with one 100%. I believe in practicing values that all religions share.

What are you talking about?

One of the guys in my weekend RPG gaming group is a Mormon... and he drinks Coca-Cola by the gallon. Yet he has a Temple Recommend. (Apparently, whether or not colas are okay depends on who you talk to.)

Me, I don't smoke and I very rarely drink, and I'm an atheist. (On the other hand, I consume large quantities of caffeine...)

I'm sure you do have about 5 or 10 members that are black. Hey, the Moonies have over a million members and they're considered a cult. It's impossible for me to convince you, that you're in a cult. There is also no point to argue with you. You have been indoctrinated by the Mormons odd dogma.

Now, you seem not to know how many people are in your cult. That's unfortunate, consider the Mormon Cult has way over 1 million members. You should know the number of members that are in the Mormon Cult.

Why does the Mormon Cult ask of new Cult members to commit massive amounts of time and money to the Cult? Don't deny it that you guys do this.

How come you guys won't let me in to attend a service at your Church? Why do I have to be invited to attend? Is it because I would walk out, because of the crazy stuff you folks believe in? Or am I suppose to be indoctrinated by your odd dogma, before I can be allowed in?

You don't have to be invited. You can just walk in to a church and sit through whatever you want.

Now, the Temple is a different story. You have to have a Temple Recommend (basically a note from your Bishop that says you are worthy) to go into one of those. And, not all Mormons are considered "worthy" to have one of those, so either way your logic is flawed.

P.S. I'm not Mormon, but I live in Utah so I am constantly exposed to them. In fact, my ex is/was Mormon. So, I think that I am fairly knowledgeable on the matter. The ignorance of many of the statements made in this thread - not just yours America - amazes me.

Don't get too excited dgd - I may be on your side about this, but I essentially think that all organized religion is a crock so please don't get the mistaken impression that I somehow am interested in joining the church. I am interested remaining agnostic.

My grandfather was excommunicated from the mormon church because he disagreed with many of their practices. My mother was excommunicated for "consorting with evil" e.g. my grandfather. How sick is that?

Mormons are allowed to consume caffine, it is specifically coffee that is not allowed (It is some mormons that get this confused on their own)

By the way I have a tangential question because I am fascinated with the topic of excommunication in general. So I was just wondering, what is the excommunication ceremony in Mormon church? Were they required to attend it? If so, how did they make sure that they attend the ceremony -- I mean no one wants to be cursed. So did they just trick them by not telling them about it ahead of time and so that they can show up in a regular service and then they lock the doors and start excommunication and now it is too late because all the doors out are locked?

And also can you describe in detail the ceremony itself? Did they do any satanic rituals just to make sure that the excommunicated person goes to hell for being exposed to idolatry? Or did they simply pray for them to go to hell? And also, apart from hell, did they put any other Curses on them, like praying that they get sick, have bad luck on their job, or even die?

Um...no, all ex-communicated means is that you are (Usually temporarily) no longer considered a member of the church. The only ex-communicated members that have been at my church have continued to attended just as normal, repented, and were eventually re-baptized. A Mormon will never pray for a person to go to hell because a Mormon does not *believe* in hell. The person will not be "cursed", they will simply be put on a "probation" of sorts

And I have *never* heard of anyone being ex-communicated for associating with ex-communicated members...in fact, they continue to attend church, and we continue to send home-teachers to their home if they so desire it. Unless they are someone who has willingly asked for their name to be removed from church records (That's not ex-communication, though, that's just someone who no longer desires to be a part of the church) Even then, the person still usually maintains friendships within the church. You don't spend a good part of your life befriending someone and then brush them off just because you decide not to go to their church anymore. If someone simply disagreed with the churches practices, they usually would not be excommunicated but would willingly leave...(Ask to leave, ask to have their name removed from baptism records, etc) I had Mormon friends when I was attending the methodist church....The mormons didn't treat me oddly because I went to a different church.

I had a friend who was excommunicated because her ex-husband outed her as a lesbian to get revenge on her for some petty BS. She is a lesbian, but the point was that she was outed out of spite. Anyway, her excommunication went something like this... First, she received a letter stating that the church heirarchy had reason to believe that she was committing an excommunicateable sin and was asked to attend a meeting with church leaders to discuss it. Her failure to attend the meeting essentially resulted in a default judgement against her.

She continued to take her kids to church and attend with them. They basically just said they would pray for her.

Mormonism is a joke, no way Joseph smith or whatever could run with two gold plates under his arms. And the Native Americans are not from Israel or whatever. Mormons tick me off, family, family, family. they're just as bad as Scientology.

I would like to point out that a person can be an active mormon and consider themselves homosexual....so long as they are celibate. I have actually known a few. Of course, this cannot be proven, usually an excommunication hearing happens when someone is homosexual and is co-habitating with his or her partner.

Isn't the Mormon church also prevalent in southern Idaho as well?

Tim