10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

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Incidents such as the OK Coral gunfight were the exceptions, not the rule, in wild west law enforcement. In most cases, when some drunk cowboy or teamster got too rowdy, the lawman on duty more often than not simply dragged the man to jail - even if it meant wading into a room full of the guy's equally drunk buddies. And that's where a lawman's reputation as a hard ass like the Earps or Hickok came into play. That, and people would be disarmed while in town, which doubtlessly had saved lives.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

how cold was it in the southern us today.i know the feeling and trouncing out to 100yds to put up target in 4 feet snow.the worst day was one time when i went and it was 10 below zero.you have to go to the car every ten minutes and warm up your fingers just to keep them fuctional.i dont shoot in the winter much anymore now that i quit playing golf.back when i was obsessed with golf i didnt do much of anything else april to october.now i shoot in the summer

Sigh..........Are you confusing automatic with semi-automatic?
Helps to know something about what you want to ban.......


Depends on what you mean by defeat.
Driving the enemy back (or out) with no desire to start back up any time in the foreseeable future is good enough for a guerrilla to call it a victory.



The south isn't a single location. At the north end of the south (Chester W.Va which is a little north of Pittsburgh) it is probably going to be different than the south end of the south (Key West Fla).
The coldest recreational shooting I've ever done was in the Fairbanks Alaska area in mid January.
It was about 40 below but a friend of mine and myself we were out target shooting just because we could.
I'll admit that we didn't stay out as long as we would if it hadn't been so cold.
It felt good to get back in that nice warm truck.

I'm talking about an absolute military defeat at the hands of guerrillas.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Not very likely to happen with guerrilla warfare but it doesn't really need to absolute defeat (enemy surrendering) to be effective and considered a victory for all practical purposes.

But happen it did in 9 A.D., in the Teutoberg Forest. Three Roman legions annihilated by the German leader Arminius, and his guerrilla army.
Anyhow, my original point was, this sort of victory was rare using guerrilla tactics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Is this the repeated argument I keep hearing about how we should ban guns because armed civilians cannot fight the government?

No, it's an argument against having guns for that purpose.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

1.england loses american revoution
2.america lost vietnam
3.russia lost afganistan
4.america is still unable to completley wipe the taliban out of afganistan.

gorrilla warefare beats big militaries all the time

This.

what was the meaning of your response to my post.

Contrary to popular belief, the American revolution wasn't won by guerrillas, but by the Continental Army, which was trained by Von Steuben to fight in the Prussian style - and the Prussian army was the best trained in the world.
As for the other examples - I heartily agree. If you check my previous posts in this thread, you'll find I had written how guerrilla fighters usually hold out long enough till the occupying professional army eventually just throw up their hands and go home. What I said specifically was that it was rare for a guerrilla force to outright destroy a professional army.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Which is an argument against self preservation and for submitting to control.

No, it just means I put trust in America's democratic traditions and form of government, instead of dwelling on paranoid fantasy.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So, you trust the government that uses you to serve the 1%.

Not everybody elected to government serves that 1%. And the sad fact is, the so called populist types like the tea baggers and anti-government militias, who are constantly moaning about government overreach by liberal Democrats (especially Obama), are the ones who are actually the henchmen of that 1%. It's more a matter of who in government I trust. But I believe this county's democratic institutions, along with the American character, would make the forces of totalitarianism less likely to be realized.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer