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10 Dec 2019, 6:12 am

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Higher IQ is probably associated with socialism via the personality trait called Openness-to-experience, which is modestly but significantly correlated with IQ. (To be more exact, left wing political views and voting patterns are characteristic of the highest and lowest IQ groups – the elite and the underclass - and right wingers tend to be in the mid-range.)

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10 Dec 2019, 1:02 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

What about pro-science conservatives?

There exists no pro-science conservatives, and I'll tell you why/how:

Conservatives by their very definition believe that the more you cut welfare benefits, the more people will work.

If we extend that to a disabled person who cannot work (with documentation from various specialist doctors, concluding the 'cannot work' with objective criteria etc.), and he/she is placed on disability pension, then conservatives - by their very definition - believe that if we cut his/her benefits/pension the disabled person will rise and be able to work.

Scientists, at least in my country, have made a study that shows this is NOT the case. The more-work-for-less-benefits does not apply to those with a severely limited work capacity.

Yet Conservatives INSISTS that by cutting the benefits, disabled people with severely limited work-capacity will be able to work.

Despite science contradicting this claim.

Therefore you cannot have conservatives who are pro-science, because there will ALWAYS be something science has proven that conservatives do not believe in - by the very definition of conservatism.

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11 Dec 2019, 7:34 pm

thinkinginpictures,

I'd recommend taking a look at my signature, as well as watching this video, which is where my signature comes from:

https://vimeo.com/357117766

Basically, even if the person is wrong, we should still care for them, and we should still have empathy for them. Yes, they're wrong, but even so, they are still human.

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11 Dec 2019, 7:38 pm

Being human really scares me. Humans are probably the cruelest and most destructive animals on the planet, and they allow themselves to be ruled by monsters who have no empathy.

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11 Dec 2019, 10:42 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

Being human really scares me. Humans are probably the cruelest and most destructive animals on the planet, and they allow themselves to be ruled by monsters who have no empathy.

Chimps make humans seem nice by comparison. :nerdy:

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11 Dec 2019, 10:44 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Tim_Tex wrote:

What about pro-science conservatives?

That's a very single-issue focused way of defining anti-science. That's more 'anti-science that doesn't support the agenda'.

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12 Dec 2019, 12:17 am

The conservative majority state legislature of Ohio has voted to take the embryo from a woman's Fallopian tube during an itopic pregnancy and plant it into the uterus in order to save the fetus. The simple fact of the matter is, that's impossible. This is a case of people guided by ideology rather than by science. I'm not saying all conservatives are that dumb, but when those who are that stupid make idiotic legislation like this doesn't make conservatives as a whole look particularly good.

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12 Dec 2019, 1:43 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Conservatives: "People on welfare should be forced to work for their welfare benefits, because it helps them get a real job."

Scientists says that most of those recieving welfare benefits are not lazy. They are genuinly needy, and you CANNOT make a welfare policy that allows for the genuinly needy only to recieve welfare benefits without making a large percentage of those genuinly needy suffer the reforms.

It's been tried in UK, Netherlands, Sweden and Denmark. It doesn't work. It doesn't help people get a job all, it is only worsening their health conditions.

https://psmag.com/news/why-work-for-welfare-doesnt-work

Everyone should want to help welfare people learn a skill and get a high paying job.

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29 Dec 2019, 6:03 pm

Liberals haven't made any scientific progress in the last 50 years.

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29 Dec 2019, 6:06 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

The joke's on them, since nearly everybody supports abortion in cases of danger to the mother, even those who oppose it in cases of rape and incest. And removal of an ectopic embryo definitely counts as that.

Was it signed into law?

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29 Dec 2019, 6:33 pm

Fnord wrote:

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

So what it all boils down to is "Conservatives are the evil white devils and are stooopid and we must get rid of them like the vermin they are by any means necessary!" ...

No, it means that political conservatism is anti-science because practicing science requires an open yet critical mind, objective observation, detailed experimentation, verification of results, and self-correction of erroneous ideas. Political conservatism requires none of these; only a closed mind, subjective opinions, sweeping generalizations, disdain for truth, and prohibition of contradictory ideas.

Frankly I think both liberals and conservatives make sweeping generalizations about each other. And the liberally biased media is not above distorting the truth to benefit their own political agenda.

Sure, but which side's sweeping generalizations are faith-based, and which are science-based?

Which side, for example, says whites are superior to non-whites, and which side says whites and non-whites are equals?

That's an easy one. Liberals believe whites are superior because they believe in the theory of social Darwinism.

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29 Dec 2019, 8:59 pm

Anonymousdude wrote:

Fnord wrote:

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

Fnord wrote:

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

So what it all boils down to is "Conservatives are the evil white devils and are stooopid and we must get rid of them like the vermin they are by any means necessary!" ...

Frankly I think both liberals and conservatives make sweeping generalizations about each other. And the liberally biased media is not above distorting the truth to benefit their own political agenda.

That's an easy one. Liberals believe whites are superior because they believe in the theory of social Darwinism.

That's gotta be the most...
Liberals ARE NOT for the theory of social Darwinism. Social Darwinism is NOT the same as Darwinian evolution. It's a pseudo-science invented by conservative rich men to justify why they're rich and everybody else isn't. As Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan have risen into the ranks of the GOP's demigods, their philosophy of the rich become richer on the backs of the downtrodden poor, devoid of morality or empathy, has been taken to heart by the right.
Just how the hell could liberals who championed civil rights be accused of racism???

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29 Dec 2019, 9:05 pm

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Everyone should want to help welfare people learn a skill and get a high paying job.

Sure, that's great! Only problem is, the private sector needs to be willing to take a hit in the CEO bank accounts so that workers just off of welfare can get good paying jobs. So far, private business is more concerned with working as few employees for as long as they can, for as little pay they can get away with, all for the sake of making the Goddamn CEO's and the stock owners rich.

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29 Dec 2019, 9:07 pm

Anonymousdude wrote:

Liberals haven't made any scientific progress in the last 50 years.

Evidence?

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29 Dec 2019, 9:07 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was.

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29 Dec 2019, 11:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Anonymousdude wrote:

Liberals haven't made any scientific progress in the last 50 years.

Evidence?

The only science I've seen liberals ever talk about is global warming and evolution. :roll:

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