05 Mar 2009, 7:59 am
When god parted the sea for Moses and his people, and drowned their pursuers.
In the modern bible, there is a mistranslation at this part. They describe the red sea parting, but in fact it was the Reid sea. This is much less deep and broad, and could be crossed in a matter of 17 minutes. It has been proven that around this time period the bible describes, there occurred a massive tsunami that could have literally ‘parted the sea’ due to the drawback effect when the tsunami approached. The Hebrews could have crossed the sea at this moment as the effect would have lasted roughly about 29 minutes. When the Egyptians arrived later, they began to cross the sea but halfway across were hit by the tsunami.
The tsunami has been proved, the mistranslation has been proved, but the chances of the Hebrews arriving at that exact moment seem a little scarce. Still, theres one miricle that did occur for you.
Assuming things occurred as you describe, they conformed to known physical forces and are perfectly rational. A miracle is an event that is unexplainable by known forces.
05 Mar 2009, 10:00 pm
05 Mar 2009, 10:07 pm
05 Mar 2009, 10:32 pm
Well, thats what religion is all about. Justifying the status quo and telling the masses to put up with the hardships of life if they wanna goto heaven.....
05 Mar 2009, 10:39 pm
05 Mar 2009, 11:19 pm
06 Mar 2009, 12:05 am
06 Mar 2009, 12:05 am
There are way too many people who share similar miracle stories in which a religious belief is the foundation of his/her miracle. But, a sugar pill is a type of faith too. Whatever makes a person believe something without a doubt seems to be the key to creating miracles.
Also, some people put such strong faith in doctors and medicine that if they are told by a physician that a particular medication will work, it very likely will. However, if the physician knows it's a sugar pill, it is much less likely to work on the patient.
I think that if we get rid of the supernatural notions and put some serious thought into this phenomenon, then it will benefit us greatly. However, I find it very unlikely that the populace will embrace this idea of being personally responsible for his/her own physical and mental health seeing how much faith they put into Western Medicine. It appears as if many people believe that doctors are miracle workers. 
Although, I have to admit that I don't like doctors or nurses or hospitals for the most part. They treat patients like cattle.
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/placebo1_i.htm
06 Mar 2009, 12:16 am
Also, some people put such strong faith in doctors and medicine that if they are told by a physician that a particular medication will work, it very likely will. However, if the physician knows it's a sugar pill, it is much less likely to work on the patient.
I think that if we get rid of the supernatural notions and put some serious thought into this phenomenon, then it will benefit us greatly. However, I find it very unlikely that the populace will embrace this idea of being personally responsible for his/her own physical and mental health seeing how much faith they put into Western Medicine. It appears as if many people believe that doctors are miracle workers.
Although, I have to admit that I don't like doctors or nurses or hospitals for the most part. They treat patients like cattle.
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/placebo1_i.htm
I respect care givers who are genuinely concerned with their patients but caring for sick and depressed and angry and suffering people does terrible things to people. And to live in an atmosphere where people you care for are continuously dying makes people try to protect themselves. Attitudes change. Doctors and hospital people also save lots of lives.
06 Mar 2009, 1:22 am
06 Mar 2009, 2:30 am
Also, some people put such strong faith in doctors and medicine that if they are told by a physician that a particular medication will work, it very likely will. However, if the physician knows it's a sugar pill, it is much less likely to work on the patient.
I think that if we get rid of the supernatural notions and put some serious thought into this phenomenon, then it will benefit us greatly. However, I find it very unlikely that the populace will embrace this idea of being personally responsible for his/her own physical and mental health seeing how much faith they put into Western Medicine. It appears as if many people believe that doctors are miracle workers.
Although, I have to admit that I don't like doctors or nurses or hospitals for the most part. They treat patients like cattle.
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/placebo1_i.htm
I guess you've made your choice in terms of choosing happiness over truth, Magnus.
It is NOT unreasonable for those who've never experienced a miracle or seen something miraculous to be cynical of other peoples claiming that miracles can happen and they can happen to you.
People WANT to believe in miracles because it satifies their emotional needs. They also want to believe that they have TOTAL control over what happens to them in their life, which is pattently false.
06 Mar 2009, 2:36 am
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06 Mar 2009, 5:13 am
06 Mar 2009, 5:46 am
Why was my comment, about a true miracle that has been proved, been removed? 
surely I'm allowed the right to debate as much as everyone else?
06 Mar 2009, 8:24 am
06 Mar 2009, 4:57 pm
