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Do you believe God exists?
1) God is a being, that one can have a personal relationship. A person God. 29%  29%  [ 55 ]
2) God is an impersonal force that guides reality as it is. He decrees our laws of physics, but does not intervene to break them. 12%  12%  [ 22 ]
3) God does not exist. Reality can be explained by scientific inquiry and the scientific method in by itself. 33%  33%  [ 62 ]
4) I am not sure. There is the possibility that God does exist, or does not. We must follow the preponderance of evidence when drawing our conclusion. 26%  26%  [ 48 ]
Total votes : 187

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15 Apr 2016, 5:39 pm

Religion and faith exist inside your brain, it's as real as you make it to be. If you believe it then it is real, it exists the only way we know it exists. Now do I actually believe in some supernatural God? I don't know, I don't think it's responsible to feel to strongly either way considering some things are impossible to answer and if they are impossible to answer then picking answer seems odd to me.



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15 Apr 2016, 5:40 pm

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homosexuality, just like I said; which science has shown is not a choice, it's a sexual orientation people are likely just born with.
Before I respond to anything else, show me what science are you referring to exactly?


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15 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm

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Religion and faith exist inside your brain, it's as real as you make it to be. If you believe it then it is real, it exists the only way we know it exists.


And there's a lot that can be leveraged from that dynamic if you know how.


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16 Apr 2016, 2:19 am

Jacoby wrote:
Religion and faith exist inside your brain, it's as real as you make it to be. If you believe it then it is real, it exists the only way we know it exists. Now do I actually believe in some supernatural God? I don't know, I don't think it's responsible to feel to strongly either way considering some things are impossible to answer and if they are impossible to answer then picking answer seems odd to me.

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16 Apr 2016, 5:29 am

High vibration, go on to the sun
Oh, let my heart dreaming
Past a mortal as me, where can I be?

Wish the sun to stand still
Reaching out to touch our own being
Past a mortal as we, here we can be
Here we be

Suns, high streams through awaken in the mass touch
Gentle, strong, dreams begin here awaken
Awaken gentle mass touch, awaken gentle mass touch
Awaken gentle mass touch

Star, song, age is awaken gentle mass touching
Awaken gentle mass touching
Awaken gentle mass touching
Touching, touching, touching

Workings of man set to ply out historical life
Re-regaining flower of the fruit of his tree
All awakening, all restoring you

Workings of man, crying out from the fires set aflame
By his blindness to see that the warmth of his being
Is promised for his seeing, his reaching so clearly

Workings of man driven far from the path
Re-released in inhibitions, so that all is left for you
All is left for you, all is left for you
All this left for you, now

Master of images songs cast a light on you
Hark through dark ties that tunnel us out of sane existence
In challenge as direct as eyes see young stars assemble

Master of light, all pure chance
As exists cross divided in all encircling mode
Oh, closely guided plan awaken in our heart

Master of soul set to touch all impenetrable youth
Ask away that thought be contact with all that's clear
Be honest with yourself, there's no doubt, no doubt

Master of time setting sail over all of our lands
And as we look forever closer
Shall we now bid farewell, farewell?

High vibration, go on to the sun
Oh, let my heart dreaming
Past a mortal as me, where can I be?

Wish the sun to stand still
Reaching out to touch our own being
Past a mortal as we, here we can be

Like the time I ran away, turned around
And you were standing close to me
Like the time I ran away, turned around
And you were standing close to me


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16 Apr 2016, 1:37 pm

"Yes"

I do.


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16 Apr 2016, 8:21 pm

Eees everyone be doin' irie today? Here is some raggae to soothe and inspire da soul:


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16 Apr 2016, 9:07 pm

Tom Lehr's
The Vatican Rag

My NT & Catholic wife sang along even though it was decades since she heard it.




A lighter side ...

"If we can't laugh at ourselves, others will beat us to it."


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16 Apr 2016, 10:07 pm

Proof that God does not exist, not one but seven proofs. Shep would hate this vid.


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16 Apr 2016, 10:57 pm

May I direct you to the following document: http://www.lcms.org/document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=1831

This is a translation of the Athanasian Creed, which is seldom used in any Western Church, and was never adopted by the Orthodox traditions.

Athanais wrote this during the Council of Niacea, since the church fathers, at the time, were wrestling with many so-called false teachings that had become prevalent.

Believe it or no. I can't force any one to believe in JHWH, Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost, or the concept of the Holy Trinity, and I'm certainly not going to try. Just don't force feed me on what I'm supposed to believe, or not believe, like the parishioners of the church I grew up in tried to do (that congregation (mostly Dad's side of the family), were very closed-minded. Some of those beliefs I feel were right, but a lot of times, convincing them of other ways of worshipping JHWH that are foreign to to their literal interpretation of the Bible, filtered through the lenses of Calvin, Arminius and C. I. Scofield, is the reason that congregation is slowly dying.



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16 Apr 2016, 10:59 pm

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Proof that God does not exist, not one but seven proofs. Shep would hate this vid.


Since your 'arguments' consist only of posting videos, I will say only this.

None of these 'proofs' are effective. And in regards to the 'scientific proof' that there is no God, I mentioned several technical arguments for God's existence which I addressed throughout the bulk of this thread.


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17 Apr 2016, 12:07 am

Deltaville wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Proof that God does not exist, not one but seven proofs. Shep would hate this vid.


Since your 'arguments' consist only of posting videos, I will say only this.

None of these 'proofs' are effective. And in regards to the 'scientific proof' that there is no God, I mentioned several technical arguments for God's existence which I addressed throughout the bulk of this thread.
The proof has been laid out and showing the possibilities it is impossible for a God to exist and the many flaws and contradictions are endless! God does not exist get over it and stop crying! This Athiest has won the 100k dollar challenge! Science is more effective than fairytales or religion, religion is primitive!I could explain the same thing after veiwing the video, either way god is destroyed! HAHAHAHHA!


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17 Apr 2016, 12:16 am

I am a god slayer! We don't need gods anymore we can get s**t done ourselves!


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17 Apr 2016, 12:23 am

The Earth is over 4.4 billion years old, it has been proven by potassium argon dating and not Carbon dating, bible thumpers use the lame carbon dating flow because they have no knowledge on how science works! Young Earth is a failure and easy to destroy as well as any religion with enough time and discoveries it will all be dismissed as mythology, no different than Greek Mythology and if you argue it is simple that the Greeks have gods themselves what makes your religion more relevant than the powers of Zeus?Religion is mythology and I will dismiss it as such, send threats all you will they are empty and I will laugh at them! I am still alive, what are you going to do or your god going to do? He still has not done anything thus proving my point! Hes a coward with no power if he exists! Now come at me with all you got! You got nothing! HAHAHAHAA! I win God Loses Your god hates gay people but made the mistake of giving man free will, if he was a perfect god he would not give man free will, owned again! I dont hate gays but support em and it will make you mad at me, oh well you god is supposed to not hate but hates homosexuality which I am indifferent to!


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17 Apr 2016, 12:47 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
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Proof that God does not exist, not one but seven proofs. Shep would hate this vid.


Since your 'arguments' consist only of posting videos, I will say only this.

None of these 'proofs' are effective. And in regards to the 'scientific proof' that there is no God, I mentioned several technical arguments for God's existence which I addressed throughout the bulk of this thread.
The proof has been laid out and showing the possibilities it is impossible for a God to exist and the many flaws and contradictions are endless! God does not exist get over it and stop crying! This Athiest has won the 100k dollar challenge! Science is more effective than fairytales or religion, religion is primitive!I could explain the same thing after veiwing the video, either way god is destroyed! HAHAHAHHA!


Explain this then:

Roger Penrose Initial Entropy Max Deviation Ratio: 1/10^10^123
Lambda-CDM Max Deviation Ratio: 1/10^120
Expansion Speed Max Deviation Ratio: 1/10^30
Gravitational Constant Max Deviation Ratio: 1/10^60

Thus, Maximum Deviation of the Universe is given by: 1/(10^10^123)+(10^30)+(10^60)+(10^120)

And that is only for the universe to exist as a whole, the max deviation becomes even smaller when we include potential for life.

And more importantly, it has been determined that Ω=1 via BICEP2/Planck in the FLRW metric. That means our universe had a definite start and could not have collapsed and bounced back in the past. Our universe had a finite age, and needs a first cause to start it, especially in a Cartesian flat universe. I wonder who done it?

Work out the formula below and tell me what you get. Because the correct metric solution certainly does not further your cause:

Image

Tell me, is the universe really infinite in the past if we take 'one' as critical density volume? The most abundant evidence for God comes in Physical Cosmology.

Now go, look for more YouTube videos to post in response. And learn to format/spell properly, please.


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17 Apr 2016, 12:51 am

One more thing, tell me what would happen to the universe if the cosmological constant differed by 1/10^120.

Solve for λ, and tell me what you get: Image


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