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Which Religion Are You?
Christianity 23%  23%  [ 25 ]
Judaism 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Islam 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Buddhism 6%  6%  [ 7 ]
Hinduism 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Agnostic/Atheist 47%  47%  [ 51 ]
Other 17%  17%  [ 18 ]
Total votes : 109

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29 Jul 2009, 5:39 pm

I picked "other" because I believe more in a pantheistic or monistic sense.


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As far as religious belief is concerned I apply Buddhist philosophy to my life as best I can but when it comes to true religious belief I lack it. I take a rather existential view of religion myself. It's simpler that way.


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11 Aug 2009, 1:12 am

Baha'i.

Any other Baha'is other than Khan? I haven't been around for a while.


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11 Aug 2009, 1:59 am

Keith wrote:
Why are Atheist and Agnostic classed as "Religion" in this poll?


Technically it isn't. Atheism is secular and usually held without religion (though there are cases, such as Unitarian Universalism and certain varieties of Buddhism, where atheism and religion are compatible).

But pulls are messy, broad brushing, matters and one would have to be a hyper-pedant to object to atheism/agnosticism or Ignoticism (here I', being the hyper-pedant) inserted into a pole.



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11 Aug 2009, 1:59 am

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Isn't it more like the lack thereof?

No, the way most gods and deities are described it would be 100% impossible to disprove them. So claiming they do not exist requires faith.


So are you saying that Ignostics are the true faithless (in the theological sense) of this world?



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11 Aug 2009, 2:08 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
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Isn't it more like the lack thereof?

No, the way most gods and deities are described it would be 100% impossible to disprove them. So claiming they do not exist requires faith.


So are you saying that Ignostics are the true faithless (in the theological sense) of this world?


Claiming the non-existence of anything requires absolute proof which is not possible. But there are an infinite number of things that might exist and it seems quite insane to demand absolute proof of all of them for non-existence to clear them out of one's mind.
How would you label someone who simply doesn't give a damn about the whole business?



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19 Aug 2009, 2:39 pm

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Baha'i.

Any other Baha'is other than Khan? I haven't been around for a while.


Nominalist is a Baha'i.



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19 Aug 2009, 2:42 pm

Sand wrote:

Claiming the non-existence of anything requires absolute proof which is not possible. But there are an infinite number of things that might exist and it seems quite insane to demand absolute proof of all of them for non-existence to clear them out of one's mind.
How would you label someone who simply doesn't give a damn about the whole business?


There does not exist a pair of relatively prime integers m, n such that

(m/n)^2 = 2.

Would you like me to prove it? Six year old kids taking a course in number theory can prove it.

You are a veritable fountain of mis-information.

I suspect you are as ignorant of mathematics as you are of physics.

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19 Aug 2009, 8:55 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Sand wrote:

Claiming the non-existence of anything requires absolute proof which is not possible. But there are an infinite number of things that might exist and it seems quite insane to demand absolute proof of all of them for non-existence to clear them out of one's mind.
How would you label someone who simply doesn't give a damn about the whole business?


There does not exist a pair of relatively prime integers m, n such that

(m/n)^2 = 2.

Would you like me to prove it? Six year old kids taking a course in number theory can prove it.

You are a veritable fountain of mis-information.

I suspect you are as ignorant of mathematics as you are of physics.

ruveyn


From the multiple posts you have offered on your various suspicions I am not at all discomforted.



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19 Aug 2009, 9:18 pm

Sand wrote:

From the multiple posts you have offered on your various suspicions I am not at all discomforted.


In any case you are dead wrong about not being able to prove a negative. It is routinely done in mathematics.

How about proving one cannot generally trisect an angle using ruler and compass. Yet another negative that is provable.

How about proving one cannot double the volume of a cube using ruler and compass.

How about proving that one cannot construct a square with the same area as a given circle, using ruler and compass.

How about proving that one cannot prove Euclid's Fifth Postulate from the other four.

How about proving that one cannot generally solve a fifth degree or higher polynomial equation in one variable using extraction of roots (Proved by Abel and Galois).

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19 Aug 2009, 9:24 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Sand wrote:

From the multiple posts you have offered on your various suspicions I am not at all discomforted.


In any case you are dead wrong about not being able to prove a negative. It is routinely done in mathematics.

How about proving one cannot generally trisect an angle using ruler and compass. Yet another negative that is provable.

How about proving one cannot double the volume of a cube using ruler and compass.

How about proving that one cannot construct a square with the same area as a given circle, using ruler and compass.

How about proving that one cannot prove Euclid's Fifth Postulate from the other four.

How about proving that one cannot generally solve a fifth degree or higher polynomial equation in one variable using extraction of roots (Proved by Abel and Galois).

ruveyn


As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
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20 Aug 2009, 4:23 am

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I believe in god but not religion.


Based on what evidence?

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for me god basically translates as another word for death, i could write about my personal beliefs all day so ill keep it as short as possible.. the universe came from nothing and will return to nothing, everything we know is destined to end all things bow to death, without death life could not exist, death defines life and existence its self.. death is the alpha and the omega. we can only truly embrace life by embracing death and only by doing so shall we learn our true place in this world.

All of life's answers are hidden within death, you just need to find them.

It's a religion, in other words. 'Death' is just "the permanent termination of the biological functions that define a living organism."


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20 Aug 2009, 12:37 pm

Henriksson wrote:
Confused-Fish wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Confused-Fish wrote:
I believe in god but not religion.


Based on what evidence?

ruveyn


for me god basically translates as another word for death, i could write about my personal beliefs all day so ill keep it as short as possible.. the universe came from nothing and will return to nothing, everything we know is destined to end all things bow to death, without death life could not exist, death defines life and existence its self.. death is the alpha and the omega. we can only truly embrace life by embracing death and only by doing so shall we learn our true place in this world.

All of life's answers are hidden within death, you just need to find them.

It's a religion, in other words. 'Death' is just "the permanent termination of the biological functions that define a living organism."


also, if god is another word for death, why use two words?
"oh no, the parrot is god."

people do this w everything "i believe in god. as in a force of nature" okay, hurricanes, tidalwaves? life?
hurricanes, tidalwaves OR life. which word will be replaced by "god"?


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20 Aug 2009, 12:53 pm

One of the problems with a god "creating" the universe is that the guys who thought it up had very little imagination. The one that stooges around now is a hairy old guy in a kind of bathrobe that is a kind of stage magician that pulls the universe out of his hat as if it was a kind of bunny. There are other possibilities. How about, for instance, if the universe were some sort of cancer that prospers by eating up God and there's a super doctor trying to cure God and destroy the universe. Or maybe God is a guard trying to keep out other universes that are leaking through. Or maybe God's mother sent Him out to sell the cow and God, being a kind of good natured but simple minded jerk (or should I say Jerk?) sold the cow for a bean and the bean grew into the universe which pissed off God's mother and she is always trying to chop up the universe because it might generate a giant. Lotsa possibilities.



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20 Aug 2009, 12:57 pm

I'm a Pastafarian. Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster!



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20 Aug 2009, 1:10 pm

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I'm a Pastafarian. Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster!


But there must be more to it than that. What about the evil tempter Mack Caroni who likes to chew on the Spaghetti Monster's meat balls and the Spaghetti monster fights back with hot spicy sauce and lots of garlic. Caroni, of course, is the father of vampires that suck blood and make it into gravy and garlic is a deadly weapon to him. The wholey literature is concerned with their long an terrible battles riding though the skies on flying pizzas and tossing sticky mozzarella t each other and explosive olives. Good lord I'm getting very hungry!