Could Autism Speaks be part of the New World Order???

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12 Jan 2010, 9:24 am

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It is a highly credible documentry by Sir David Attenbourgh, actually. I dont know where you are getting your figures from, but someone is lieing to you.

Attenborough has an agenda to promote. Besides that, he lacks the necessary mathematical background to make authoritative claims on population growth. Lastly, I have never seen a documentary that wasn't absolute garbage.


If you KNOW that you are right about EVERYTHING, and any evidence presented is 'absolute garbage', then why bother discussing it? surely your great mind has better things to do than argue with stupid people like us, who obviously cant think for ourselves, and obviously dont know anything about anything :wink:



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12 Jan 2010, 12:02 pm

miszt wrote:
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It is a highly credible documentry by Sir David Attenbourgh, actually. I dont know where you are getting your figures from, but someone is lieing to you.

Attenborough has an agenda to promote. Besides that, he lacks the necessary mathematical background to make authoritative claims on population growth. Lastly, I have never seen a documentary that wasn't absolute garbage.


If you KNOW that you are right about EVERYTHING, and any evidence presented is 'absolute garbage', then why bother discussing it? surely your great mind has better things to do than argue with stupid people like us, who obviously cant think for ourselves, and obviously dont know anything about anything :wink:

1) I am not right about everything, and I know that. There are plenty of things I know next to nothing about.
2) I never said any opposing evidence is garbage. Documentaries just tend to be very poorly done and are usually shallow propaganda pieces for one agenda or another. Even the documentaries I've seen that support my position on a particular subject have struck me as astonishingly poorly done.
3) In this case I am right. The math checks out, you can go read estimates from the UN and a variety of other sources.


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12 Jan 2010, 12:56 pm

well the world needs extremist cynics just as much as it needs those who follow by blind faith, those who dont care either way, and those who want to know something, before judging it



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12 Jan 2010, 9:18 pm

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Edit: I think you are completly misinterprating me if you have come to the conclusion that I think its a good thing for people to survive off the suffering of others!! !! !! !! !


It is because I don't see you denouncing it, reminding people of what the State is.
I see you saying nothing about this system that has not worked to make people free from poverty and corruption. A system that is funded through extortion and has a monopoly on violence.


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You may believe that such a shift in perception is irrelevant, because it doesnt actually change the world, well there are billions of Buddhists all over the planet that would disagree with you, Cause and Effect; if you make a small change in yourself, who knows what good can come of it....and either way, it's the only thing you have ANY control over, so surely thats the best place to focus?


You and I participate in this forum to share ideas with others.
Things you say have an influence on others.
Things you've heard have had an influence on you.
You've changed, we all have changed, we all will continue to change, towards what direction we change is collectively determined by individual actions.
It is not a matter of brainwashing people, it is a matter of influencing others with the things you say. If they make sense and seem logical, they might be adopted.



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12 Jan 2010, 9:40 pm

You are completly missing the point of every one of my posts, perhaps my fault for not being more articulate, however, i get your point, The State is to blame, not You, and i disagree.



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12 Jan 2010, 11:41 pm

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You are completly missing the point of every one of my posts, perhaps my fault for not being more articulate, however, i get your point, The State is to blame, not You, and i disagree.


And not saying "blame" the State. I'm just saying expose it, denounce it, boycott it.

I get your point that change begins from within, but it begins, it doesn't end there.



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13 Jan 2010, 7:21 am

you are very determined that I follow your path aint ya Asper! lol I've followed that one already, for most of the last 10 years of my life infact, I've grown very tired of the Cynism, I believe it is useful, BUT, the 'underground' has just as many faults as 'The System'; the diffrence is, The underground is not tolerant of the System, but the System IS tolerant of the underground. my mind is made up, I would rather work on my own life, than follow the, imo hypocritical notions, of people who demand that the worlds problems come from anywhere but themselves. We each have far to many faults to even begin pointing fingers at other people, imo



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13 Jan 2010, 10:45 pm

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you are very determined that I follow your path aint ya Asper! lol I've followed that one already, for most of the last 10 years of my life infact, I've grown very tired of the Cynism, I believe it is useful, BUT, the 'underground' has just as many faults as 'The System'; the diffrence is, The underground is not tolerant of the System, but the System IS tolerant of the underground. my mind is made up, I would rather work on my own life, than follow the, imo hypocritical notions, of people who demand that the worlds problems come from anywhere but themselves. We each have far to many faults to even begin pointing fingers at other people, imo


I never said people are innocent and the State is the only monster. The State is composed, legitimized and funded by people(not all of the people though).

I accept the fact that the State exists thanks to the ignorance and compliance of the masses.
Through education is that it will disappear.
I do my part, I just don't see you doing yours.
What exactly is that you advocate?



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14 Jan 2010, 8:58 am

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I do my part, I just don't see you doing yours.


sums up the issue perfectly, you believe that YOUR way is better than mine, just as everyone else believes their way is better than everyone elses; humans spend so much time congratulating themselves on being better than other people, generally by going around informing other people of their 'ignorance', that they become incapable of seeing their own flaws, and even less capable of doing something about it.

So heres what I advocate, firstly, stop judging me, you dont know me, or what I do, or what I have spent my life doing :wink: secondly, accept that your way of life is only good for you, and leave others to do what is right for them :) (and yes, I do indeed see the irony of my first statement + my second telling you how you got it wrong ;) )



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15 Jan 2010, 8:12 pm

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I do my part, I just don't see you doing yours.


sums up the issue perfectly, you believe that YOUR way is better than mine, just as everyone else believes their way is better than everyone elses; humans spend so much time congratulating themselves on being better than other people, generally by going around informing other people of their 'ignorance', that they become incapable of seeing their own flaws, and even less capable of doing something about it.

So heres what I advocate, firstly, stop judging me, you dont know me, or what I do, or what I have spent my life doing :wink: secondly, accept that your way of life is only good for you, and leave others to do what is right for them :) (and yes, I do indeed see the irony of my first statement + my second telling you how you got it wrong ;) )


You still did not tell me what you advocate.
I still have not seen what is that you offer that would improve the human species.
This is why I've been saying "you aren't doing your part".



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19 Jan 2010, 10:33 pm

Well on the topic of the thread. I think that Autism speaks is more of a neo/concervative agenda than a "new world order" AS people for the most part are very progressive in our political views...granted I said "most". There was a study based on that some years back...and those were the findings. Well the popular belief is that autism is increasing...so based on that, the far-righters want to elimate us as they feel us to be a threat to their party's future. I know that they are anti-abortion, but if it was between unborn autistic babies and their party's future...then you know what they would do. Becides neo-cons are not anti-abortion as they are pro-sharks and plankton socioeconomically. To keep the poor even poorer and rich even richer ...but that is another thread.

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20 Jan 2010, 6:06 pm

I don't believe in that NWO and illuminati crap. But anyways, let's say they are real. There's no reason for Autism Speaks to be a part of the NWO. People with AS aren't even a threat to their agenda. We have the potential to wake millions of people up with our analytical skills when a lot of us can't even handle everyday small talk?