Why is the world as messed up as it is?

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There are all sorts of vacuums. Some cleaner than others. Vacuum means absence of air or other gases.

i am not going to be roped into any philosophical or scientific discussion.

a perfect vacuum is a space where there is not one atom or even particle in occupancy.

if there is a volume of solid or liquid matter that lies within a vacuum, then the volume of that occupied space is subtracted from the volume of the vacuum.

the location of the volume of zero pressure is the only location of the volume of the vacuum,

gases are comprised of particles in the same way as solids are, but they are elastic and will expand due to their weak bonds to permeate the vacuum due to the fact that there is no imposing pressure to compress them, but that does not define the vacuum.
a true vacuum is a volume with not one particle in it.

that is why the world is messy.

it is 12:40 am here and i have worked hard today, so go back to arguing your more intelligent points with your peers.

Since virtual particles are popping in and out of space all the time the concept of an absolute vacuum is probably merely theoretical.

virtual particles are not actual particles, and therefore do not occupy space.

From Wikipedia.

In physics, a virtual particle is a particle that exists for a limited time and space, introducing uncertainty in their energy and momentum due to the uncertainty principle. Because energy and momentum in quantum mechanics are time and space derivative operators, then due to Fourier transforms their spans are inversely proportional to time duration and position spans, respectively.

you merely point to the speculations of other thinkers.
why do you not have your own ideas arrived at by your own reasoning.
it is easy to learn the apparent "discoveries" of others, but it is another thing to be able to find your own way to a solid and reasonable verification in your own words.

limited to zero. zero is the limit of smallness.


how can there be a principle based on uncertainty? i know you will claim "because it is written".
you can not argue how a "principle" can be "definite" that is based on the deviation from concrete expectation of the actuality of circumstances that do not satisfy the prevailing concrete theoretical expectations.
"uncertainty" is just that. it is not certain and therefore it is an attempt to explain the absence of predictability due to the limitations of the calculations that are incomplete to explain the entire actuality of existence. it is the application of a system of quasi logic that redeems one from the embarrassment of not having a bullet proof doctrine (not just theory) that explains every aspect of observed reality.


and in the event that that is true, then the existence of a particle that is surmised to exist due to the application of the "uncertainty principle", will subtract further from the zero pressure of the vacuum and render the vacuum a negative pressure. a negative pressure is something that may incite arrivals of particles that are unable to occupy "real space", but they will not ever return the pressure to zero which is a perfect vacuum. and moreover they will never increase it to a positive pressure.


i am not interested to take this further and i will let you have the last word.
you will prevail because i am not interested to wrangle and try to sound smart.
you are smarter sand. relax.

It has nothing to do with intellect. I merely accepted the definition of a virtual particle. I am not a physics theoretician nor a particle physicist so I must accept the concepts offered. My ego is not involved. I would have assumed you would be delighted to get the correct information.

ok sand.
i appreciate your effort in trying to communicate with me.
most people in the PPR would write me off as a lesser person and not address me.

i have no education as to the topic we were discussing. i only have my private consideration to access.

so ok i am utterly finished with this topic.
please do not reply because i will be compelled to reply to your reply.

so theyve gotten to you too

Consider that it is in fact you that are messed up, the world is functioning well within the parameters of the world and your ideals are skewing your perspective.

Exactly! Given what human beings are (the Smartest Baddest Apes in the Primate House) the world is functioning in consistency with our nature. Or more importantly, we are functioning in consistency with our nature.

ruveyn

i went for a walk in the bush the other day and i was disgusted at how untidy it was.
there were rocks strewn everywhere, and they were all filthy. some had dirt caked on them, and others had mosses and moulds growing on them like one would see on a block of cheese in a dead mans refigerator.

there were leaves everywhere on the ground, and it was that disgusting that there were insects crawling among them.
there were unkempt trees where the bark was falling off, and there was a shamozzle of twigs and sticks lying everywhere.
there was dirt on the ground all over the place and it must have been a foot deep!

i thought "good grief! what a mess" and went back home.

but mars is even worse. it has a frightful amount of disorganized rocks just laying on the ground where they were left, and a thick layer of dust has covered many of them.

do not get me started on the moon. apart form the unsightly rubble, none of the craters have been even marginally addressed!

I think what is wrong with the world is simply the growing conflict and discrepancy between our abilities and our moral resources to control them.

Survival of the fittest is an ideal system in the jungle when all you have is stones and spears.
But once you begin to develop nanotechnology that simply wont cut it any more.

Then we need a much stronger moral compass and a whole new paradigm to govern our lives.

if the technology does not "cut" it, then it will not survive.
"survival of the fittest" is a universal principle that pervades all aspects of existence, even down to the most "unnatural" and nanoscopic

Ishmael
....its not that the world is flawed, or that even people are flawed, its the story they live is flawed

Because free market capitalism give license to mega-corporations to be internally communist. ... My economic hang-up at least....