How to peacefully disband The Illegimate State of Israel

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15 Apr 2011, 8:22 pm

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As I recall, it wasn't the Jews who brought down the Tsarists or the Nazis. Rather, the Jews had the good fortune of having people seeking their destruction in conflict with other powerful forces and events.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I never said it was the Jewish people who caused the downfalls. I merely pointed out that every regime that ever tried to wipe out the Jews has come to a sad end. The practical lesson is: don't f*ck with the Jews.

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15 Apr 2011, 8:24 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

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15 Apr 2011, 8:25 pm

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nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

Precisely. And every nation which was forged from conquest and warfare is not legitimate. Virtually every nation in the world, by the criterion, is not legitimate.

I think the only o.k. bunch are the Australian aborigines.

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15 Apr 2011, 10:09 pm

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JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

Precisely. And every nation which was forged from conquest and warfare is not legitimate. Virtually every nation in the world, by the criterion, is not legitimate.

I think the only o.k. bunch are the Australian aborigines.

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No, for even the Australian aborigines have made war against the Psittacorian Empire. The death of many Psittaci is upon their hands.

[/dramatic overly serious tones]

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15 Apr 2011, 10:19 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

No, for even the Australian aborigines have made war against the Psittacorian Empire. The death of many Psittaci is upon their hands.

[/dramatic overly serious tones]

Their hands? Or the hands of their ancestors? I refuse to buy into the notion that just because a people did something bad at one time, then all their descendants have to be held accountable for eternity.
So, Jews of today are not guilty for the death of Christ and the persecution of the early church. Germans of today are not responsible for the holocaust. The modern English are not responsible for the mass starvation in Ireland during the potato famine. And Aborigines are not responsible because their ancestors had wiped out the Psittaci.

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15 Apr 2011, 10:46 pm

ruveyn wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

and that is why I don't feel beholden to their laws . . .
good thing I am personally very moral and don't break most of them anyway.
I am a man that does not need a cop to tell him to be a good man.

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16 Apr 2011, 6:40 am

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Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Rome attempted to wipe out the Jewish nation. They did not succeed. And Rome fell of some of the same corruption that led her to try to wipe out the Jews. Today a Jewish tourist can go to the City of Rome and see the Titus Arch on which is graven - Jerusalem Capta. Well, Jerusalem is now free and Rome (the empire or Republic) no longer exists. So who won?

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16 Apr 2011, 6:59 am

i deal with jews very often. i like them. they seem happy enough and unsuspicious enough for me.

i have many jewish customers, and when i propose new products that they can buy, they always ask whether the products are kosher.

when i can hire a rabbi to do whatever his "blessing dance" he does over my products, then his seal of approval of my products is tantamount to my success in getting rid of that stock for a profit.

i like jews as long as they are customers of mine. they always pay on time. i am happy when i am in a crowd of jews because they think reasonably. they are quite sane because i can attract dollars out of their pockets.

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16 Apr 2011, 8:05 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

No, for even the Australian aborigines have made war against the Psittacorian Empire. The death of many Psittaci is upon their hands.

[/dramatic overly serious tones]

Their hands? Or the hands of their ancestors? I refuse to buy into the notion that just because a people did something bad at one time, then all their descendants have to be held accountable for eternity.
.... And Aborigines are not responsible because their ancestors had wiped out the Psittaci.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Oh, methinks you don't know who the Psittaci are. Many of them are from Terra Psittacorum, including a dozen of which who are my pets and friends at home. The Australian aborigines used to kill and eat individual Psittaci, and some of them still do!! ! Disband the illegal state of Australian aboriginalness and re-declare the Psittacorian Empire! Terra Psittacorum for Psittaci!! !

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16 Apr 2011, 8:12 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

No, for even the Australian aborigines have made war against the Psittacorian Empire. The death of many Psittaci is upon their hands.

[/dramatic overly serious tones]

Their hands? Or the hands of their ancestors? I refuse to buy into the notion that just because a people did something bad at one time, then all their descendants have to be held accountable for eternity.
.... And Aborigines are not responsible because their ancestors had wiped out the Psittaci.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

deary me i am glad that all this verbiage is not worthy of a reply from me. it is much more important to spend your calories in pursuit of reality rather than in pursuit of personal images that are crafted by how others think.

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16 Apr 2011, 8:29 am

b9 wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

No, for even the Australian aborigines have made war against the Psittacorian Empire. The death of many Psittaci is upon their hands.

[/dramatic overly serious tones]

Their hands? Or the hands of their ancestors? I refuse to buy into the notion that just because a people did something bad at one time, then all their descendants have to be held accountable for eternity.
.... And Aborigines are not responsible because their ancestors had wiped out the Psittaci.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Well, your lack of capitalization is not worthy of a reply from me either, but my statements are about reality as well. The Australian aborigines have killed many poor Psittaci and used their bodies for food. They took the land from the Psittaci on Terra Psittacorum, but the Psittaci are going to eventually grow stronger and conquer the world!! ! Beware the Imperium Psittacorum!! !!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi_4L5TJSMM[/youtube]

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16 Apr 2011, 1:20 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Who won? The Barbarians (either my ancestors, or my ancestors kin) who the Romans couldn't keep down for all those years, and then who overwhelmed the Romans by the 5th century. Again, the Jews had knowingly, or unknowingly allies who shouldn't be f****d with.
The funny thing is though, the Barbarians would have considered a Jew of the period to be nothing more than an oddly behaving Roman.

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16 Apr 2011, 1:30 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Who won? The Barbarians (either my ancestors, or my ancestors kin) who the Romans couldn't keep down for all those years, and then who overwhelmed the Romans by the 5th century. Again, the Jews had knowingly, or unknowingly allies who shouldn't be f**** with.
The funny thing is though, the Barbarians would have considered a Jew of the period to be nothing more than an oddly behaving Roman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Well, another funny thing is that the bearded (barbarian) ancestors of you sought to play Romans not to long ago, and stank at it too. The Romans were xenophobic, but at least they never sought the genocide of other peoples whereas the blasted Germans did and thankfully got blasted and overwhelmed for it on all sides.

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16 Apr 2011, 1:42 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Who won? The Barbarians (either my ancestors, or my ancestors kin) who the Romans couldn't keep down for all those years, and then who overwhelmed the Romans by the 5th century. Again, the Jews had knowingly, or unknowingly allies who shouldn't be f**** with.
The funny thing is though, the Barbarians would have considered a Jew of the period to be nothing more than an oddly behaving Roman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Number one, the empires built by Clovis, Charlemagne, and Otto the Great were in my opinion impressive achievements. Are you referring to the Second Reich? That was actually quite an achievement in itself, which was in the end only destroyed by the extremes of their own - and their neighbors' - nationalism.
Number two, the Germans became genocidal maniacs in the 20ty century - whereas my people were in the United States by the 19th century, and thus I can happily deny any connection to the Germans by that time.
There is plenty to German history beyond the Nazis and their horrific race theories that led to mass murder.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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16 Apr 2011, 2:37 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Who won? The Barbarians (either my ancestors, or my ancestors kin) who the Romans couldn't keep down for all those years, and then who overwhelmed the Romans by the 5th century. Again, the Jews had knowingly, or unknowingly allies who shouldn't be f**** with.
The funny thing is though, the Barbarians would have considered a Jew of the period to be nothing more than an oddly behaving Roman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Number one, the empires built by Clovis, Charlemagne, and Otto the Great were in my opinion impressive achievements. Are you referring to the Second Reich? That was actually quite an achievement in itself, which was in the end only destroyed by the extremes of their own - and their neighbors' - nationalism.
Number two, the Germans became genocidal maniacs in the 20ty century - whereas my people were in the United States by the 19th century, and thus I can happily deny any connection to the Germans by that time.
There is plenty to German history beyond the Nazis and their horrific race theories that led to mass murder.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

There were Germans in Germany who didn't want any connection with the Nazis either. I'm not assuming that all Germans were Nazis or anything ludicrous like that, but hearing any form of national or racial pride about being German verges on nauseating to me.

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16 Apr 2011, 3:59 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Or perhaps the lesson should be, don't f**k with the Jews bigger, stronger friends - like the United States of America.

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

Who won? The Barbarians (either my ancestors, or my ancestors kin) who the Romans couldn't keep down for all those years, and then who overwhelmed the Romans by the 5th century. Again, the Jews had knowingly, or unknowingly allies who shouldn't be f**** with.
The funny thing is though, the Barbarians would have considered a Jew of the period to be nothing more than an oddly behaving Roman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Number one, the empires built by Clovis, Charlemagne, and Otto the Great were in my opinion impressive achievements. Are you referring to the Second Reich? That was actually quite an achievement in itself, which was in the end only destroyed by the extremes of their own - and their neighbors' - nationalism.
Number two, the Germans became genocidal maniacs in the 20ty century - whereas my people were in the United States by the 19th century, and thus I can happily deny any connection to the Germans by that time.
There is plenty to German history beyond the Nazis and their horrific race theories that led to mass murder.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

If you're nauseated, then take some peptobysmal. Germany has and Germans have much to be proud of that has nothing to do with Hitler and the Nazis. And yes, I'm proud to have a hereditary connection to that, just as Ruveyn is understandably proud of his Jewish roots - he has much to be proud of.
You said you yourself are of English and French ancestry. Well guess what, those nations wouldn't be in existence today without the Germans. The English language was brought to the British Isles by Germanic tribes like the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and Frisians in the 5th century.
France had formerly been the Roman province of Gaul before the Germanic Franks from the Rhineland and the Low Countries had taken over the region, leaving their name imprinted on the country - France meaning "Land of the Franks." Though the Franks in Gaul were vastly outnumbered by the native Gallo-Roman population, the Franks had had such a significant impact on the country that the locals began thinking of themselves as Franks too - and thus you call yourself part French, rather than part Gaul.
All that would have been impossible without the Germans. So suck it up, and be more tolerant of your brothers of the Rhine.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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