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20 Apr 2011, 8:59 pm

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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.



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20 Apr 2011, 9:00 pm

Telekon wrote:
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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.


Don't confuse him :lol:


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20 Apr 2011, 9:07 pm

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When I was in Liverpool, I parked my car to go into the city centre, 2 kids asked me if I wanted them to mind my car, I said "don't bother boys, there's a rottweiler in the back", they said "yeah, can he put out fires?".


That cos' around here its common practice to set cars on fire with fireworks.
Edit: what part of Liverpool did you park in, as theres areas where that is bad idea to do so if don't live around there



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20 Apr 2011, 9:11 pm

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What about the unending council estates full of white scum, of which you couldn't dream walking through?


What about them? For better or worse, they're part of that civilization. Blacks and Muslims are interlopers.


You know, I could probably give you stories on how stupid your ethnic deportation/reduction schemes are by noting what a racial composite England itself is, given all the Saxon invasions it's suffered,


England didn't exist when the Saxons arrived. It was only after the Saxon invasions that the English nation emerged. That is not at all analogous to Muslim and black immigration.

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but suffice to say it's comical that you try to apply this same dumb arse standard to North American countries which have even less ethnic homogeneity in ethnic groups that form a plurality of their population.


What are you talking about? Do you even read my posts before responding?



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20 Apr 2011, 10:42 pm

Telekon wrote:
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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.


:lol: I don't care about bigots. I was simply stating that bigotry is often the result of what you refer to as 'interlopers', migrations happen, cultures change, bigots get butthurt. Same s**t, different day


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Don't confuse him


You're such a f*****g idiot :) congrats!


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20 Apr 2011, 11:27 pm

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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.


:lol: I don't care about bigots. I was simply stating that bigotry is often the result of what you refer to as 'interlopers', migrations happen, cultures change, bigots get butthurt. Same sh**, different day


It looked like you were saying something rather different. Your first two statements were History is full of interlopers. Get over it. I took you to be saying that I shouldn't concern myself with something (in this case, mass immigration to the UK) because it has happened in the past. But then, almost anything objectionable you can think of (genocide, class warfare, disenfranchisement etc) has occurred in history. Then again, you were probably just trolling me with your usual dismissive and glib commentary.



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20 Apr 2011, 11:51 pm

Telekon wrote:
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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.


:lol: I don't care about bigots. I was simply stating that bigotry is often the result of what you refer to as 'interlopers', migrations happen, cultures change, bigots get butthurt. Same sh**, different day


It looked like you were saying something rather different. Your first two statements were History is full of interlopers. Get over it. I took you to be saying that I shouldn't concern myself with something (in this case, mass immigration to the UK) because it has happened in the past. But then, almost anything objectionable you can think of (genocide, class warfare, disenfranchisement etc) has occurred in history. Then again, you were probably just trolling me with your usual dismissive and glib commentary.


Sorry if you thought I was referring to you as a bigot. I wasn't. My personal feelings on immigration are rather complicated but the situation in the U.K. is worrisome to me, however I don't base my feelings on racially charged motivations. I don't troll people, you just disagree with me. Yet I don't refer to your behavior as trolling, or your posts as 'glib', though you've been quick to call people who disagree with you liars. If you want to see trolling behavior you need not look further then benjaminbreeg here


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21 Apr 2011, 1:22 am

I find that the main issue with the EU immigration policy is that it makes it too easy for non-EU nationals to enter an easy EU member country then have the freedom to travel thought the EU to another EU country where they can take advantage of the country's system.

Also I'll point out someone as well the Isle of Man of late as been having immigration issues all thanks to the EU's policy.



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21 Apr 2011, 2:38 am

Vigilans wrote:
Telekon wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Telekon wrote:
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History is full of interlopers. Get over it. Its the way of the world. Its unfortunate that it usually has to result in bigotry from both sides


History is full of many unpleasant things. I guess if something has happened in the past, you should get over it. That means you have to get over bigots, since history is full of them.


:lol: I don't care about bigots. I was simply stating that bigotry is often the result of what you refer to as 'interlopers', migrations happen, cultures change, bigots get butthurt. Same sh**, different day


It looked like you were saying something rather different. Your first two statements were History is full of interlopers. Get over it. I took you to be saying that I shouldn't concern myself with something (in this case, mass immigration to the UK) because it has happened in the past. But then, almost anything objectionable you can think of (genocide, class warfare, disenfranchisement etc) has occurred in history. Then again, you were probably just trolling me with your usual dismissive and glib commentary.


Sorry if you thought I was referring to you as a bigot. I wasn't. My personal feelings on immigration are rather complicated but the situation in the U.K. is worrisome to me, however I don't base my feelings on racially charged motivations. I don't troll people, you just disagree with me. Yet I don't refer to your behavior as trolling, or your posts as 'glib', though you've been quick to call people who disagree with you liars. If you want to see trolling behavior you need not look further then benjaminbreeg here


Lol. I'm just being silly, get your facts straight. And you called me a f*****g idiot, so how would that be seen?


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21 Apr 2011, 3:28 am

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I find that the main issue with the EU immigration policy is that it makes it too easy for non-EU nationals to enter an easy EU member country then have the freedom to travel thought the EU to another EU country where they can take advantage of the country's system.

Also I'll point out someone as well the Isle of Man of late as been having immigration issues all thanks to the EU's policy.


I should imagine that Britain's overseas territories are probably very grateful that they can still set their own immigration policy.

Yes, cdfox7 - it's all about the weak link. An immigrant can apply for and get citizenship from a southerly or easterly-based EU country (that really just wants rid of them), then they have access to anywhere in the EU. It's the weakest link story yet again. You're essentially asking that 27 different countries each look after each other's interests. It won't and can't be done.

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That is not at all analogous to Muslim and black immigration.


Other point is that the amount of Muslim immigration, and the segregation issues, mean that it will take a lot longer for such problems to sort themselves out due to the differences in culture and the problems we have with extremism and non-integration.



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21 Apr 2011, 3:29 am

cdfox7 wrote:
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When I was in Liverpool, I parked my car to go into the city centre, 2 kids asked me if I wanted them to mind my car, I said "don't bother boys, there's a rottweiler in the back", they said "yeah, can he put out fires?".


That cos' around here its common practice to set cars on fire with fireworks.
Edit: what part of Liverpool did you park in, as theres areas where that is bad idea to do so if don't live around there


I used to live on Great Homer Street. I went to Penrhyn Street School, which shows how long ago it was. I remember my dad being absolutely livid when some scumbag broke into his car on the first night he had it.



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21 Apr 2011, 3:43 am

Anne Robinson got a lot to answer for, you what her deported? :lmao:



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When I was in Liverpool, I parked my car to go into the city centre, 2 kids asked me if I wanted them to mind my car, I said "don't bother boys, there's a rottweiler in the back", they said "yeah, can he put out fires?".


That cos' around here its common practice to set cars on fire with fireworks.
Edit: what part of Liverpool did you park in, as theres areas where that is bad idea to do so if don't live around there


I used to live on Great Homer Street. I went to Penrhyn Street School, which shows how long ago it was. I remember my dad being absolutely livid when some scumbag broke into his car on the first night he had it.


Its ruff as f**k around that way now thanks to gangs & knife crime.



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21 Apr 2011, 7:04 am

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Again, just tell me what makes them racist, in your eyes?


They want to deport anyone who is non-white out of the country for starters. A pretty racist policy, that. And their association with racist violence (John Tyndall, the first leader of the BNP, was an outspoken neo-Nazi) speaks for itself.



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21 Apr 2011, 8:46 am

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Lol. I'm just being silly, get your facts straight. And you called me a f***ing idiot, so how would that be seen?


Accurately :wink: :)


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Lol. I'm just being silly, get your facts straight. And you called me a f***ing idiot, so how would that be seen?


Accurately :wink: :)


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