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Does Economic Superiority Result From Cultural Superiority?
Yes 31%  31%  [ 9 ]
No 62%  62%  [ 18 ]
Just Show the Results 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
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ruveyn
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05 Aug 2012, 7:46 am

enrico_dandolo wrote:
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Completely wrong. They ruled it as a sovereign peoples until the Ottomans, for about 1000 years.

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The Bedouin never constituted a nation state in the modern sense of the term.

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Is that a criterion for anything?


It is if you want to talk about -sovereign powers-.

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05 Aug 2012, 7:50 am

ruveyn wrote:
enrico_dandolo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
edgewaters wrote:
Completely wrong. They ruled it as a sovereign peoples until the Ottomans, for about 1000 years.

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The Bedouin never constituted a nation state in the modern sense of the term.

ruveyn

Is that a criterion for anything?


It is if you want to talk about -sovereign powers-.

ruveyn


doesnt change the fact that any and all sovereignity spring from the lack thereof.


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05 Aug 2012, 7:52 am

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doesnt change the fact that any and all sovereignity spring from the lack thereof.


Sovereign power comes from organization and weapons. Nothing comes from nothing and nothing produces nothing.

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05 Aug 2012, 12:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
enrico_dandolo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
edgewaters wrote:
Completely wrong. They ruled it as a sovereign peoples until the Ottomans, for about 1000 years.

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The Bedouin never constituted a nation state in the modern sense of the term.

ruveyn

Is that a criterion for anything?


It is if you want to talk about -sovereign powers-.

ruveyn

1- Being a nation is not a criterion for sovereignty, and being a nation-state, even less so.
2- I don't care about sovereignty. What is important is autonomy.



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05 Aug 2012, 1:23 pm

ruveyn wrote:
enrico_dandolo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
edgewaters wrote:
Completely wrong. They ruled it as a sovereign peoples until the Ottomans, for about 1000 years.

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The Bedouin never constituted a nation state in the modern sense of the term.

ruveyn

Is that a criterion for anything?


It is if you want to talk about -sovereign powers-.

ruveyn


Are you a "sovereign power"? No? Well then ... is it ok with you if the government comes along and kicks you off your land without any compensation at all, and sells it to someone else, just because they can?

I'm not sure sovereignty should be required for basic property rights to be respected.