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Should Prostitution be Legal?
I'm male, and I say "Yay!" 66%  66%  [ 103 ]
I'm male, and I say "Neigh!" 14%  14%  [ 22 ]
I'm female, and I say "Yes" 15%  15%  [ 23 ]
I'm female, and I say "No" 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
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23 Oct 2012, 5:08 pm

Speaking of haircuts, I remember the "Barber Shops" in Taipei and Seoul

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-09/ ... ostitution

Some of them resemble big, fancy hotels with neon signs.

Services were a bit pricey. Certainly not Ashley-Dupre pricey, but not cheap enough to do every day, either.



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25 Oct 2012, 4:03 pm

I am a male and I say yes.

Sex is just another thing to sell. It isn't my business to tell someone that they can't sell it. I would, however, go a little more in depth than simple legalisation. Prostitution is something that should be regulated. Registered brothels with STD tests on a regular basis (once a month?), bareback sex strictly prohibited, with the entire industry taxed just like every other business.

Such a system would, I believe, do a great deal of good for the sex trade.


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25 Oct 2012, 5:40 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
I still don't think prostitution is about demand for sex per se, but demand for paid-for sex. I think there's an attraction to some people in being able to pay someone to do something they wouldn't do for free.


I perceive a contradiction. If men have to pay women for something that women wouldn't do for free, then of course the men would have to pay for it.


They could get it for free somewhere else, but that would be with a woman who actually wanted to do it. What I'm saying is that some men like the women to not be into the sex itself, to be doing it for the money. They don't want a fully willing woman. It's like a little taste of rape, without the coercion or violence.

Not every man who uses prostitutes is like, but I think some are.



I don't think so. Men who get off on coercion resort to rape. A prostitute agrees to have sex with him in exchange for a fee. Sounds like a pet theory somebody came up with to vilify Johns.

I think that women who aren't prostitutes are against legalizing(or even decriminalizing) prostitution because they feel that for society to allow it would result in unfair competition for them.



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25 Oct 2012, 6:21 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
I still don't think prostitution is about demand for sex per se, but demand for paid-for sex. I think there's an attraction to some people in being able to pay someone to do something they wouldn't do for free.


I perceive a contradiction. If men have to pay women for something that women wouldn't do for free, then of course the men would have to pay for it.


They could get it for free somewhere else, but that would be with a woman who actually wanted to do it. What I'm saying is that some men like the women to not be into the sex itself, to be doing it for the money. They don't want a fully willing woman. It's like a little taste of rape, without the coercion or violence.

Not every man who uses prostitutes is like, but I think some are.



I don't think so. Men who get off on coercion resort to rape. A prostitute agrees to have sex with him in exchange for a fee. Sounds like a pet theory somebody came up with to vilify Johns.

I think that women who aren't prostitutes are against legalizing(or even decriminalizing) prostitution because they feel that for society to allow it would result in unfair competition for them.


Obviously, I care less about competition for men because I'm not that interested in them. Part of the reason I'm not that interested in them is because they do things like buy prostitutes on a much wider scale than women do.

But I'm not against legalising prostitution; I just don't respect johns.



25 Oct 2012, 7:13 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
I still don't think prostitution is about demand for sex per se, but demand for paid-for sex. I think there's an attraction to some people in being able to pay someone to do something they wouldn't do for free.


I perceive a contradiction. If men have to pay women for something that women wouldn't do for free, then of course the men would have to pay for it.


They could get it for free somewhere else, but that would be with a woman who actually wanted to do it. What I'm saying is that some men like the women to not be into the sex itself, to be doing it for the money. They don't want a fully willing woman. It's like a little taste of rape, without the coercion or violence.

Not every man who uses prostitutes is like, but I think some are.



I don't think so. Men who get off on coercion resort to rape. A prostitute agrees to have sex with him in exchange for a fee. Sounds like a pet theory somebody came up with to vilify Johns.

I think that women who aren't prostitutes are against legalizing(or even decriminalizing) prostitution because they feel that for society to allow it would result in unfair competition for them.


Obviously, I care less about competition for men because I'm not that interested in them. Part of the reason I'm not that interested in them is because they do things like buy prostitutes on a much wider scale than women do.

But I'm not against legalising prostitution; I just don't respect johns.



What I find very interesting is how despite the fact that male prostitutes who sleep with women do exist, and are referred to as a "gigolos" or "hustlers", they seem to be far fewer in number than gay prostitutes who cater to men; who were formerly called "punks" and in the UK are called "rent boys". I honestly wonder what women wanting a dirty fling did before online hookup sites(like craigslist among others! :lol:). You may not be the type who does this but a lot of modern women do. And on the subject of pimpin' & ho-in' in general......








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25 Oct 2012, 8:53 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
Part of the reason I'm not that interested in them is because they do things like buy prostitutes on a much wider scale than women do.

But I'm not against legalising prostitution; I just don't respect johns.


Why not? A few women have figured out how to make money off of the male libido. So what?



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25 Oct 2012, 8:54 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
Part of the reason I'm not that interested in them is because they do things like buy prostitutes on a much wider scale than women do.

But I'm not against legalising prostitution; I just don't respect johns.


Why not? A few women have figured out how to make money off of the male libido. So what?


Like I said, I have no disrespect for prostitutes, just johns.



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26 Oct 2012, 7:31 am

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Like I said, I have no disrespect for prostitutes, just johns.


You're certainly entitled to respect (or not) anyone you wish, for any reason you wish.

Can you elaborate a bit on why you have no respect for johns? And, would this disrespect extend to female romance tourists?



26 Oct 2012, 10:13 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
Like I said, I have no disrespect for prostitutes, just johns.


You're certainly entitled to respect (or not) anyone you wish, for any reason you wish.

Can you elaborate a bit on why you have no respect for johns? And, would this disrespect extend to female romance tourists?




I guess some women are disgusted by the whole concept of sex as a business transaction. There were taught that sex is something sacred and they truly believe it.

Also, the perceive Johns to be low status men who can't get laid so they turn to prostitutes. There is a belief that if you can't attract a woman to you and shag her free of charge then you shouldn't be allowed to have sex. :roll:



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26 Oct 2012, 10:32 am

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Also, the perceive Johns to be low status men who can't get laid so they turn to prostitutes. There is a belief that if you can't attract a woman to you and shag her free of charge then you shouldn't be allowed to have sex. :roll:


As non-females, we can only speculate. Part of it, too, might be that if men are able to satisfy their cravings for a few dollars with a willing administrator, then fewer men might be inclined to attempt to perform the wining, dining and romancing for which coitus is the desired reward, over which women exercise considerable control.



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26 Oct 2012, 10:51 am

Male and against.

I have nothing against prostitution in principle; everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want. But society is such that it's relatively easy to coerce people into prostitution because they are poor, illegal immigrants or dependent on the exploiter in some other way. So limiting people's freedom by forbidding prostitution seems like the lesser evil compared to allowing the exploitation.

The only society I can imagine where exploitation would not exist in prostitution was one where alternative jobs with the same pay were offered to every prostitute, where such a thing as illegal immigrants don't exist, where there's an organisation people can go to to be protected from vengeful former exploiters.



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26 Oct 2012, 11:20 am

Sex should not be a marketplace. Also because time is money there is too much pressure to get the business transaction over with as fast as possible rather than making it a date and a girlfriend experience.



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26 Oct 2012, 11:28 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
Like I said, I have no disrespect for prostitutes, just johns.


You're certainly entitled to respect (or not) anyone you wish, for any reason you wish.

Can you elaborate a bit on why you have no respect for johns? And, would this disrespect extend to female romance tourists?


I lack respect for johns because they pay to have sex. I think doing that shows a low level of self respect. I feel exactly the same way about female sex tourists. I even feel that way about rich men who get trophy wives or anyone who 'buys' a partner in one way or another.



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26 Oct 2012, 11:31 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:

Also, the perceive Johns to be low status men who can't get laid so they turn to prostitutes. There is a belief that if you can't attract a woman to you and shag her free of charge then you shouldn't be allowed to have sex. :roll:


As non-females, we can only speculate. Part of it, too, might be that if men are able to satisfy their cravings for a few dollars with a willing administrator, then fewer men might be inclined to attempt to perform the wining, dining and romancing for which coitus is the desired reward, over which women exercise considerable control.


Women don't 'give' or 'reward' you with sex. It's not a commodity. It's an activity with two or more people involved.

When people see it as commodity, I just find it very sad.



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26 Oct 2012, 11:35 am

Female and for in cases of consenting adults. I can see the risk of exploitation, but feel that in any case the poostitute should not be punished.



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26 Oct 2012, 11:41 am

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Women don't 'give' or 'reward' you with sex. It's not a commodity. It's an activity with two or more people involved.

When people see it as commodity, I just find it very sad.


It is an activity that requires mutual agreement and coordination.

If two people want to play tennis together, that's fine. If one person wants to pay another to play tennis with him, that is also fine.

Any activity that requires the cooperation of two or more people could be regarded as a "commodity." There is nothing to get sad about.