Ethical paradox: Would You Kill Baby Hitler?

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No, I wouldn't kill the baby Hitler. I would, instead, try to prevent Hitler from becoming what he ultimately became.

I would have stopped the Versailles Treaty.

If Ya Wanna Eliminate Demagogues, Wherever They Sprout;

Ya Eliminate Scarcity of Socio-Economic Opportunities;

Demagogues, Dictators, Other Authoritarian Leaders

Cannot Rise Unless There Are Adequate

Numbers of 'Minions' Living

In Socio-Economic

Scarcity to Provide

A 'Target Audience' of Followers;

Demagogues, Not Unlike Old Testament
God's And the Bad Cop Version of Jesus

In the New Testament of Fictional Stories

Are the Same; These Stories or Realities

Are Greater Accepted Where Socio-Economic Scarcities exist...

And Folks Looking For Direction From an Over-Ling Savior,

Like A 'Big Daddy', When Days are Rough....

Ya Can't Just Leave

Folks Behind and Forget

About Their Troubles if ya

Expect Any Big Society to Survive

in Peace and Harmony...

Nah; Saying

Just Pull-Up
On Ya Bootstraps;

Will Raise A Next 'Trump' Up

too or 'God Forbid' 'The Same Damned one'...

Now We Are a Global Economy So This will Be

Like a Cultural Global Pandemic

of 'Bad

Guys' too...

'Are We Falling Yet';

'Are We Falling Yet';

So Far The Birds, Squirrels
And Other Critters in my Back-
Yard Forest Are Still Rising Yet

They Wear No Human Clothes and
We Feed Them For Free; Now and then
Scuffles Break Out, at the all You They Can

Eat Buffet We Provide...

It's a Balance

Not too Few

And Not Too many 'Sunflower Seeds'....

Going back in time to kill Hitler did not happen because Hitler became leader of Nazi Germany.

What if you were a bad person who wanted Hitler to rise in power to become what he became ?

Knowing the official story, you would go back in time and make sure he couldn't study at art school. Yes some say he was a bad artist and that's why he got refused. But, seriously, when does someone feels the need to go to school, if not to have a job or trade of some kind, to earn a living ? They refused Hitler that privilege, and what did he became ? Yes, a delinquent, AND a politician !

Instead of killing baby Hitler, someone could have gone back in time to give Hitler's a red herring about the Warsaw treaty before he signed it. The paradox here is that he would not have signed it then.

So, I wouldn't have killed baby Hitler, because I couldn't.

we are not allowed to meddle in fate. changing karma is the realm of the gods.

No I wouldn't kill him, not as an infant and not as an adult. I do everything in my power not to emulate people who are violent, deranged, or misguided.

For my morals and value system to have any integrity, I can't kill him.

I'd certainly intervene to stop him, and if I got killed in the process at least I wouldn't be a vengeful murderer like him.

Hitler was a product of his environment. If he was growing up today it would be very unlikely he would be anything dangerous.

So no killing babies

It comes down to the "Great Man Theory" vs "Impersonal Forces Theory" of history.

The first is out of fashion, but as Henry Kissenger once said "I used to believe in the Impersonal forces theory, but after having participated in history first hand I have witnessed how individuals can pivotal diffences".

Hitler was a catalyst for ...societal forces. Its hard to imagine the third Reich forming without his 1920s actions.

So yes...its tempting to think that killing baby Hitler would have prevented the second world war and the Holocaust.

But though Hitler was pivotal (a "great man" in that sense) he was also product of his time. In the 1890s there was an anti semitic rabble rouser who ran, and won the office of mayor in Vienna in Hitlers childhood. So Hitler wasnt the first. Guys like him were coming out of the woodwork even before world war one. Someone else like Hitler would have appeared in Hitler's stead - had Hitler died of one of his four wounds in the first world war (or had been snuffed as a baby by a time traveling you).

Maybe a Hitler type regime would have appeared slightly later in time. And maybe a later Hitler- type figure may have been either ONLY half as evil and/or ONLY half as competent as the actual Hitler- but a lesser Hitler in a more technologically advanced world.

Imagine a less evil and less competent Hitler in a world that HAS the atomic bomb. A half-assed Hitler with A bombs would be more dangerous than the actual Hitler was in Hitler's time.

So in the short run killing Hitler might well have made a difference. But in the long run not so much...in fact things could be worse now.

No - H*tler and other fascists in history was a neurotic physcopath (science says so) and just a d*ck - H*tler was born with the genetic and brain abnormalities that'd lead him to do them things but that shouldn't have given him a free pass to do the things did. He could have rather - became a hippy practitioner or turned to religion to help himself - the world is rich in light, beauty and hope - for everyone.

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But weather to kill babies - No - If I had a time machine and the confidence - I'd go to H*tler's house and become his routine shaman - cure him from his demons through natures medicines and the new future music, teach H*tler meditation - show that even behind any evil man - there is a pure good heart and soul. We are all human after all - monkey's were never neurotic physcopath - everyone, even f*cked up people like dat H*tler, Putin and the rest of fascist web chains pig tw*ts in the present that seems just never stop or never dies off through time unfortunately - had/have a pure heart and soul behind the evil. They just need turn to Gods lights.

Well that may be true that those Nazis that rose to the top were nuerotic psychopaths (certainly describes Hitler and Himmler) but in our modern world they would amount to no more than psychopathic bullies if they get their chance,

i don't believe he had any hippy in him. none whatsoever. he would have been just the same even if he wasn't chancellor, like chief brownshirt or battalion commander or whatnot just like the other pissant nazis. it is always possible that somebody worse could have come along at a more forgiving time. it is futile to try to change this hellworld into something less hellish and closer to heaven. only two entities can do that and neither shows any signs of willingness to do anything of the sort.

You mean he was destined for evil

some folk are bad seeds. some are bad to the bone from birth. sometimes nature wins out of nurture. sometimes it is the scorpion that stings the frog carrying him across the stream and they both drown. that is the way of psychopathy. hard cold truths.

If only Hitler was accepted to art school....

^I imagine Hitler was quite arrogant - he had a firewall around him, auntblabby is right - it must have just been in h*tlers brain wiring and environmental cognition development pathology, so no one could stop him.

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Firstly - apologies for swearing in my primary post, I don't usually swear. Completely inappropriate and contradictory of me on the idea that we should live in light and hope or peaceful anti-establishment anarchy with God's spirit on our side - too create a harmonious blissful new world for mother earth, people and for the survival of next generation's, not to be confused with the new world order that's been in place since 60's and 2000's (government and corporate mind control). If we feed God's holy spirit, God will feed us with blissful exctecy, as a metaphor or literally.

Some are bad to the bone from birth through genetics and wiring because the mass machine created through secondary evolution and the neurodevelopmental through such quantum processes (full evolution in contrast too present evolution in a lifetime and history) created and controlled by who or which central entity - I have no idea, but can make and has made good hearted people, bad, through quantum brain developmental evolution through time.
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But I just googled "H*tlers art work" Holy roly poly , H*tler was a good painter! art isnt my interest but wow sure he was a good painter.

Why they not let him in art school? That could have stopped the death of a lot of innocent people.

Hitler was seen as being a "limited" artist-----sort of like a singer who might be good, but has a limited vocal range.

He was seen, basically, as one who lacked creativity.