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23 Dec 2015, 10:43 am

Huffington Post- Washington Post Retracts Cartoon Depicting Ted Cruz's Daughters As Dancing Monkeys

Now children are being portrayed as monkeys:

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Rough politics indeed.



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23 Dec 2015, 10:46 am

One should go back to 19th century cartoons, and 19th century American politics in general. Much more vicious than it is now.



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23 Dec 2015, 10:49 am

Straw people all over this thread. How bad Obama has been as a president and how bad a president Clinton would be does not change one iota the damage already done by Trump and the much worse damage that would occur the longer this goes on.

Trump is not an ass but despite what he says a clever politician. Political campaigns are marketing campaigns. People think marketing is marketing companies making up stuff and selling it. No, marketing is exploiting a real issue to sell something. Trumps marketing is exploiting the reality of scattershot immigration policy and political correctness run amok. The analyst at NBC news was complaining that pretty much everything Trump said would get him fired at most companies. That fact is exactly why he has the fervent and widespread support he does.

The frightining part for me is that the Trump supporters who think they are making a statement against political correctness are only going to make it worse. Although Trumps supporters represent a substantial minority the majority of the country has moved beyond or never was there when that his type of language and attitudes were common in the workplace back in the 1980's when I entered the workforce. The minorities will be the majority in a few decades. As a whole the bullying extreme fascistic version of political correctness is limited to some colleges at and internet bloggers at this point. As much as most voters dislike Hillary or Bernie I expect them to vote for them as the lesser of two evils over Trump or a party that is associated with his ideas. These politically correct fascists are going be gaining power in the political, business and media world. It will be much easier for them to implement their un American ideas of political dialogue in a one party system where conservatism or bieng a white male is automatically associated with prejudice, hate and scorn for the weak.


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23 Dec 2015, 10:52 am

A war started on false pretenses and horribly mismanaged from the start. It was an order of magnitude worse than what happened in Libya.

I'm not a Hillary fan either, and I'll happily throw her under the bus as soon as anything sticks. Right now, it looks like a bunch of sad partisans making things mountains out every molehill they can get their hands on.


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23 Dec 2015, 11:13 am

No matter how much faith we have in a presidential candidate to upset the status quo in Washington, they will face a nearly impossible task. You have to remember, they still have to work with a Congress of Dems and Pubs who are dangling on the strings of big business.

If more people got involved with political issues, we could force the career politicians in act in our best interest -- maybe! At the end of the day, they still require our votes to stay in power. But that's going to take a population of Americans who are informed and capable of critical thinking. Sadly, the general population has been so dumbed down that I doubt that will ever happen.


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23 Dec 2015, 11:21 am

Or....they're too stuck in their own localized lives to give a damn about national politics.



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23 Dec 2015, 11:56 am

It's amazing to me to see how much people's views on the facts are affected by ideology. I guess this is the result of the news sources being so polarized. Liberals get their news from liberal sources and conservatives get theirs from conservatives sources. We can't even seem to agree on basic facts. It makes debating rather difficult.



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23 Dec 2015, 11:59 am

Lukeda420 wrote:
It's amazing to me to see how much people's views on the facts are affected by ideology. I guess this is the result of the news sources being so polarized. Liberals get their news from liberal sources and conservatives get theirs from conservatives sources. We can't even seem to agree on basic facts. It makes debating rather difficult.


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23 Dec 2015, 2:40 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
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nurseangela wrote:
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Trump, the leading Republican, took a mild shot at the leading Democrat.

It was nothing, a throwaway line. Her being low energy, late for speaking engagements, has already come up.

It is also a taste of what is to come, her history from highly questionable Securities investments, turning $2,000 into $100,000 in days, to the long list of people who knew something about the Clintons showing up dead.

The guy in Benghazi called The State Department, The White House, and The Pentagon, none of them would answer the call.

Hillary rerouted Official US Business to her personal server, and forwarded some Secret information to other countries. When questioned, she denied everything, erased the hard drive, then wiped it. Destruction of evidence is a crime, even when no crime can be proved, because of destruction of evidence. The NSA does have records of all, stored on their computers.

National Security calls for recovering the content of her computer. Obama is running the coverup.

Hillary was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying. She has always been above the law, she has friends.

Hillary resigned as Secretary of State, before being fired. It was the only way out. She kept the State Department Official Business on her personal server. That is theft of State Secrets.

All of these things will come up if she runs for President, as they should.

It is not just her, it is the Democrat Establishment. Hillary was not working alone.

JEB called Trump a Jerk, this thread an Ass, which shows the low state of American politics.

Someone will lead America for the next four years, most of America would vote for someone who was not involved in the crimes of the past, and who puts America above Parties, PACs, Donors, and Political Correctness.

Do what is right for America, make America great again.


I just love how the Left keeps changing the subject and looking the other way when the truth is right in front of their face in black and white about what kind of a person Clinton really is. Keep talking about the toilet incident instead of the REAL problems this country is having - Democrats are good at talking nonsense and calling names. This is why the country will go down because the Left refuses to acknowledge the truth and instead will elect a murderer and compulsive liar into the Whitehouse. I can't wait to see what new lies Clinton will come up with to cover herself from the old lies. Trump is just the one to bring up all of Clinton's boo boos. :)


Oh, you mean liberal lies like Obama being a secret Muslim, or Obamacare death panels, or how dinosaur bones were discovered fresh in Alaska (disproving an earth older than 6,000 years), or how trickle down economics actually works, or... No wait, those are conservative lies.


If you think whether Obama is a Muslim or not, death panels existing, or dinosaur bones being discovered even comes close to the cover up of the 4 Americans that died in Benghazi by Clinton and your president, then you don't have your head screwed on right. Those two fine people you keep tooting your horn about had to cover up that the present administration was running guns through Benghazi to the Syrian rebels. They were watching the whole time from the White House the Ambassador and 3 other Americans dying and refused to send them any help because they couldn't let people know what they were really doing. That's the current president that YOU elected along with the next future president YOU want to be voted in. And you think Trump is a bad choice? Get the hell out of my face with that crap.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-ad ... ls-2012-12


If you think I'm in your "face with that crap," it's only because I'm challenging your unsubstantiated claims.
And by the way, there are no death panels, the President is not a MUslim, and dinosaurs (with the exception of modern birds) were not alive a mere six thousand years ago.


But there are FOUR DEAD AMERICANS.


Yes, and that's tragic and unacceptable. But it's also something that happens more often than you'd think. Remember, under the demigod of the Republican party, Ronnie Raygun, an even greater number of Americans were killed in Lebanon, when a suicide bomber drove a truck full of explosives into a marine barracks. Despite obvious flaws in security, nobody went after Raygun like they are with Obama and Clinton. And lest it be forgot, it was the Republican Congress that had cut funding for embassy security just a year before the Benghazi attack. The fact is, there is plenty of blame to go around for those four dead Americans, but for the right to use their deaths as a means of attacking their two primary political rivals is beneath contempt.


Why was Obama running guns to the Syrian rebels?


Because Asad and the Muslim extremists like ISIS are evil, and so Obama, his administration, and in fact many Republicans, all believed it was the right thing to do. Trust me, our government has been running guns to what turned out to be disreputable people for decades, if not longer. Think of how Eisenhauer had supported Castro, till the beard showed his true colors after taking power, or how Kennedy had supported the mob infested Batista supporters in the Anti-Castro underground, whose corruption and oppression had brought about the Cuban Revolution in the first place.


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23 Dec 2015, 3:55 pm

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As much as most voters dislike Hillary or Bernie I expect them to vote for them as the lesser of two evils over Trump or a party that is associated with his idea

Trump is far left. So the "party that is associated with him" is the Socialist party.

That's why he's so popular.

Get rid of NAFTA.
Wants "Obamacare on Steroids" national health care.
Move taxes from the poor and middle class onto the rich.
Huge taxes on rich.
Protect the border to protect wages.
Curtail cheap labor immigration programs.
Tariffs on imports.
Supports gay marriage because it's the "law of the land".

It's bizarre the left is attacking this guy.

And hard to see how Clinton can beat him. He will attack from the left, and she will have to
defend the status quo.



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23 Dec 2015, 7:24 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
As much as most voters dislike Hillary or Bernie I expect them to vote for them as the lesser of two evils over Trump or a party that is associated with his idea

Trump is far left. So the "party that is associated with him" is the Socialist party.

That's why he's so popular.

Get rid of NAFTA.
Wants "Obamacare on Steroids" national health care.
Move taxes from the poor and middle class onto the rich.
Huge taxes on rich.
Protect the border to protect wages.
Curtail cheap labor immigration programs.
Tariffs on imports.
Supports gay marriage because it's the "law of the land".

It's bizarre the left is attacking this guy.

And hard to see how Clinton can beat him. He will attack from the left, and she will have to
defend the status quo.



The left opposes Trump because of his racial and religious bigotry. Plus, the people he appeals to hardly can be described as socialists. That, and his tax plan is still going to favor the super rich.


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23 Dec 2015, 10:12 pm

[Redacted]

In Louisiana a while back David Duke ran for Governor against Edwin Edwards, who later did ten years Federal time.

The bumper sticker read, "Vote for the crook, it's important."

Vote for the Nationalist, it's important.



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[Redacted]
In Louisiana a while back David Duke ran for Governor against Edwin Edwards, who later did ten years Federal time.

The bumper sticker read, "Vote for the crook, it's important."

Vote for the Nationalist, it's important.


I think I've just been left speechless. 8O


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24 Dec 2015, 2:15 am

Yea Inventor, you really went off the deep end this time.


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24 Dec 2015, 2:20 am

About time.

Just how many people in the history of the United States have moved from no elected office, to New York, and got elected US Senator? Who then were funded to run for President?

I hear Bernie holds duel Citizenship.

American politics is about lies, murder, money, media.

As Trump points out, The New York Times was bought for $5 billion, but with the death of newspapers is now worth $500 million. Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post, just to lobby for not taxing Amazon.

Electronic media is following the fall of print, TV viewing is dropping fast. Those who could control the national dialog are failing, they have lost the ability to control public opinion.

The Public holds Congress and the President in very low regard.

The Security State, tapping all phones, reading all emails, searching travelers, treating the Citizens like prisoners, is not popular.

While the lives of Citizens are invaded, illegals are allowed free access to everything.

Next comes laws like leftist Europe, where those who object to being overrun by undocumented invaders can be put in jail.

The Left is out to extinguish the Light Of Liberty.

We have watered the Tree of Liberty with our blood, for hundreds of years, take care about what you think you are going to cut down.



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24 Dec 2015, 2:40 am

^^^

As I recall, Bobby Kennedy's senatorial career began with an election in New York, despite not having been from there, and as far as I know, not having held previous elected office.
And Arnold Schwarzenegger has duel citizenship with Austria, but nobody raised a stink about that.


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