On punching Nazis

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Years of propaganda will do that to ya.

First of can you define what a Nazi is and then explain why Spencer is one?

His claim to fame is writing about how other races are lesser and advocates for ethnic cleansing. Oh, and leading a Nazi salute in DC. I'd say being a piece of s**t means you deserve a punch.

I disagree with your train of thought. Keep defending Nazis though lol.

If that was a reason to punch someone, then most of your beloved media and politicians deserve the same as they have supported ethnic cleansing across the globe, and so do all US taxpayers, but I'm not advocating that you whack yourself.

I'm not defending Nazis. If it was a Communist or Zionist being sucker punched for just stating their views I would defend their right to free speech and not to be attacked for it.

I find it interesting that some of the people condemning Richard Spencer's assailant, have also defended George Zimmerman's stalking and killing of an unarmed black child.

This truly is a white man's world, isn't it?

Zimmerman isn't white.

The jury has to decide if the crime was committed, they don't make a subjective decision on what the law is. It is up to the judge to instruct them on the relevant law. Such assumptions can lead to jury suspensions, mistrials or the case been thrown out.

Self-defense laws can be unrealistic, but there is no perfect balance.

However none of this is relevant in this case. At no point was the individual that threw the punch under threat from the individual he punched regardless of what ideology he espoused. Actions are what are relevant.

If we are going to talk of harassment and being up in people faces, then we can't have doubles standards when looking at the behaviour of activists. If we take a look at the mix of radicals recently that being acting aggressively threatening people then this guy has more then met his match. In fact this guy is smart in a away becuase he is not rising to it, even if his ideology is distasteful.

The irony here is they have given this guy a credible ideological self-defense position, that he can use to his political advantage.

The desire to punch this guy has less to do with direct threat and more to do with incompatible ideologies. They don't care if their own kind cause similar fear.

SJWs need to realise they have only empowered radicals, like this man through their own illiberal and regressive ideas. Once they properly understand the principle of rights, stop fostering resentment and division through flawed power models and social theories, and conflating institutional power with individual power, then progress may actually be made.

They are the antithesis of what principled leaders like Martin Luther King Jr and Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi stand for.

And just considering that Zimmerman isn't white. If Martin was a white kid would you and the race baiting media be making the same kind of selected fuss? Are you just going by the picture of Martin from when he was like 12 that the media put out deliberately? I think Zimmerman would have tried the same thing regardless of skin color. He's just a wannabe cop thug.

I don't know about communists (because communism isn't wrong in of itself, actual communism, not how it's being wrongly represented), but I hate Zionists too. They support killing Palestinians so they can take their land. It's gross. They'd happily kill off an entire ethnicity and think it was justified.

oh my gods, can you not

If Richard Spencer jumped you and you reasonably feared for your life then you would be justifed to defend yourself with lethal force. Kind of an apples to oranges comparison. The stupidest part of attacking this guy is that is gives him a 100x more notoriety than he deserves or would of had otherwise and likewise it is the mainstream media that is responsible for even giving this nobody the light of day.

Yes. OK a Soviet then. I think Karl Marx had good intentions. Yep. Then you ought to read some books by Norman Finkelstein who has shown that Jewish suffering has been exploited to blackmail banks and to stop people criticising Israel.

China is arguably the biggest super power, Asians are some of the highest earning and influential as a block.

African Immigrants from Nigeria earn more than French and Dutch Americans.

If you accept only victimhood this will be burdened with it. This is not a path to liberation.

Similarly if we are talking about exploitation and discrimination it is definitely not just a white man's world. You should compare the freedoms you have in the west to elsewhere. Your outlook is very biased, yet you express this view freely. I have lived in many countries some of which such views would not be tolerated and could get you killed. It is very easy and simplistic to reduce everything to one global conspiracy, but it is also lazy and irresponsible.

Tainting a large block of people with the same brush makes you little better than this man. Intersectionality is responsible this kind of new think, and it will not lead to equality. On the contrary it encourages pigeonholing and resentment.

He's part Afro-Peruvian and Hispanic. Wasn't it the same media who labelled him 'white' the same one who separated whites and Hispanics into separate categories during the recent election?

Well that is an interesting point, because when people want to use the banner of "people of colour" they often include Hispanics.

This likely includes me, who doesn't look white northern European.

Then again "people of colour" is just "coloured people" rearranged. It is dumb phrase, which assume there is commonality which is often overstated. Like the idea that a Vietnamese American man would somehow better able to relate to a black prostitute as in the Project Green Light tiff.

Other times "white" is used to describe Caucasians, which is interesting because Arabs/Semites and other non-white individual are predominantly Caucasian, and even closer to the Caucus, both geographically and in in origin.

The term Aryan also means "from Iran" for those who have that complex.

The idea that where a person are from inherently more insightful and educated on certain issues is another fallacious idea of intersectionality. Ideas should be judge on merit alone.

So it is accurate to say by a common standard Zimmernan is not white. However there is a further point: Hispanic Americans and African American don't always have strong solidarity in fact they can have quite strong rivalry.

you're argument is shallow the only thing you have said is not yo defend nazis.

I have tried conveying this to you. Richard Spencer judging by hos views likely grew up in a very racist household eventually one can be covinced of some deplorable views that way. After which when you see something as yhe truth its hard to be comvinced of something else. Its the reason why so many muslims are against homosexuality. If Richard is not totally responsible for his views and wants to do good then why should he be punched

In recognition of this simple truth, can we take advantage of current law and deport people who self-identify this way until they have been subject to extreme vetting?