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28 Sep 2019, 9:42 pm

la_fenkis wrote:
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But the science has been clear for decades and they're stealing my future something something how dare you!


I gather you are Greta's twin brother?

Child, you are only 16, and though you are very intelligent, you don't have life's wisdom that can only be attained through years of experience.

For example: There are a lot of sociopaths, psychopaths and garden variety ratbags who will use your naivety to their advantage to advance their power lust.
This is something you are yet to learn, sweet young Wolfram. <comfort>


Sometimes they'll even use ad hominem attacks to try to make a person more malleable to their guile.

Of course, neither naivete, authority, nor consensus have any bearing on truth in either direction, only the merit of the involved concepts themselves as they relate to reality.


I found your post a little ambiguous.
Old age, ya know. ;)

Some people compartmentalise and filter out relevant considerations when creating an intellectual construct, such as instinctual influences, psychological tendencies, cultural dogma, level of life wisdom, intellectual capacity, excessive emotional influences enticing emotionalism and catastrophisation.
I hope you are not one of "those people". :mrgreen:

All had been considered in my post to Greta's twin brother, Wolfram.

Many questions in life are extremely complex, grasshopper.
One must embrace a greater perspective to appreciate the entire picture, even if the process causes discomfort during that personal growth. 8)
Walk towards enlightenment, my child.

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Compartmentalization (psychology)

Compartmentalization is a subconscious psychological defense mechanism used to avoid cognitive dissonance, or the mental discomfort and anxiety caused by a person's having conflicting values, cognitions, emotions, beliefs, etc. within themselves.

Compartmentalization allows these conflicting ideas to co-exist by inhibiting direct or explicit acknowledgement and interaction between separate compartmentalized self-states.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartme ... psychology)


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Cognitive dissonance
In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. This discomfort is triggered by a situation in which a person's belief clashes with new evidence perceived by the person. When confronted with facts that contradict beliefs, ideals, and values, people will try to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.[1][2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance



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28 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm

You humans are not worth saving from climate change. Mother Nature needs to have an abortion with her 'human' children.



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28 Sep 2019, 9:53 pm

Hey, Twiz! How's it going?


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28 Sep 2019, 9:56 pm

Don't mean to derail this thread, but I think someone here owes us an explanation . . .

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28 Sep 2019, 9:57 pm

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Hey, Twiz! How's it going?


Western Civilization is falling apart and now my mom is bothering me. :cry:



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28 Sep 2019, 9:59 pm

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Hey, Twiz! How's it going?
Western Civilization is falling apart and now my mom is bothering me. :cry:
Dude, I'm sorry to read that. At least you still have a mom, though. I lost mine in July.

:cry: :cry:


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28 Sep 2019, 10:01 pm

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Climate Change Alarmists Have Gone TOO FAR!

Absolutely! How dare they try to save the world and the life on it?

that was sarcasm by the way

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Climate change proponents: If we win, and we're wrong, we get a healthier, cleaner planet!

Climate change deniers: If we win, and we're wrong, we all die!

Exactly. It's that simple.


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28 Sep 2019, 10:01 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Hey, Twiz! How's it going?
Western Civilization is falling apart and now my mom is bothering me. :cry:
Dude, I'm sorry to read that. At least you still have a mom, though. I lost mine in July.

:cry: :cry:


Ok, in actual seriousness, I'm really sorry to hear that Fnord. :( :heart:



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28 Sep 2019, 10:03 pm

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What are we essential to? Most don't even think life has meaning, so I don't understand what the universe would lose if we weren't here anymore.


Well, yeah. Ours is one tiny planet at one tiny moment in the infinite vastness of the universe. It's not going to matter in the end.
But what's the point of anything at all, if you look at it like that?
On a more human scale, I still thinks it's sad, and we could and should be doing more.



I do a lot. I absolutely love recycling. I use very little gas myself. But, I don't do it with the expectation of a payoff. I just like it.


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28 Sep 2019, 10:03 pm

L0ser wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
Hey, Twiz! How's it going?
Western Civilization is falling apart and now my mom is bothering me. :cry:
Dude, I'm sorry to read that. At least you still have a mom, though. I lost mine in July. :cry: :cry:
Ok, in actual seriousness, I'm really sorry to hear that Fnord. :( :heart:
Thanks. I really appreciate that. Go hug your mom for me, willya?

Then we can both despair at the decline of Western Civilization (and civilization in general).


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28 Sep 2019, 10:04 pm

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Interesting that there is no provided link to look up the professionals and scientists involved in this letter.


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28 Sep 2019, 10:07 pm

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You humans are not worth saving from climate change. Mother Nature needs to have an abortion with her 'human' children.



https://youtu.be/aezikcoCr4o



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28 Sep 2019, 10:09 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Interesting that there is no provided link to look up the professionals and scientists involved in this letter.
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The letter was signed by [over 500] prominent scientists and professionals from related fields, including atmospheric physicist Richard Lindzen and applied geology professor Alberto Prestininzi.

The effort is led by professor Guus Berkhout, a Dutch engineer who served as professor of acoustics, geophysics, and innovation management at the Delft University of Technology.

Berkhout intends to release the full list of 500 signatories in Oslo on Oct. 18.

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28 Sep 2019, 10:18 pm

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Don't mean to derail this thread, but I think someone here owes us an explanation . . .

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Oh dear,
The indiscretion youth.
What can I say? :shrug:



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28 Sep 2019, 10:26 pm

Pepe wrote:
la_fenkis wrote:

Sometimes they'll even use ad hominem attacks to try to make a person more malleable to their guile.

Of course, neither naivete, authority, nor consensus have any bearing on truth in either direction, only the merit of the involved concepts themselves as they relate to reality.


I found your post a little ambiguous.
Old age, ya know. ;)

Some people compartmentalise and filter out relevant considerations when creating an intellectual construct, such as instinctual influences, psychological tendencies, cultural dogma, level of life wisdom, intellectual capacity, excessive emotional influences enticing emotionalism and catastrophisation.
I hope you are not one of "those people". :mrgreen:

All had been considered in my post to Greta's twin brother, Wolfram.

Many questions in life are extremely complex, grasshopper.
One must embrace a greater perspective to appreciate the entire picture, even if the process causes discomfort during that personal growth. 8)
Walk towards enlightenment, my child.

<om mani padme hum>

<exit ninja-philosophy mode> :ninja:


You've clearly misunderstood what I was saying. Anyways, I'm disengaging.



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28 Sep 2019, 10:26 pm

Donald Morton wrote:
There is one undeniable fact. The climate is changing whether it is solar forcing, or human intervention, or larger changes solar system wide, or any other issue, the climate is changing and not for the better. Unless you have been living under a rock in recent years and not witnessed the intensification of storms across the globe among other things, you would know this. We can continue to go on with our heads in the sand to see a world without clean air, clean water, clean food, significant wild life reductions leaving a waste land to the following generations. That is our future if things go as they are today.

I suppose all I did here was provide food for the trolls and contrarians.


I was going to upvote this post, but then I realized this isn't reddit...


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