12 Aug 2007, 9:17 pm
greenblue wrote:
...I don't think it is because of choosing a sexless lifestyle because of their religion beliefs as few people think. I don't really know if Ragtime actually believes that, probably he could claim homosexuality can be a result from it.
I can't see that at all. Indeed, Raggy would be
trying to make himself gay, in that case.
Indeed, my mother remembers that all the
priests in her day had girlfriends, so I rather
suspect that this is a fairly modern phenomena.
12 Aug 2007, 9:22 pm
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
for all my jest... i dont even consider myself bi...i
And all at once, you crush my hopes.
She has a habit of doing that calandale, I'm still bummed that she won't post pictures of her hourglass figure.
12 Aug 2007, 9:25 pm
jfrmeister wrote:
She has a habit of doing that calandale, I'm still bummed that she won't post pictures of her hourglass figure.
You'll just have to take my word on it then.
'Tis nice.
And no, nothing odd there. We were in the same town.
12 Aug 2007, 9:25 pm
calandale wrote:
greenblue wrote:
...I don't think it is because of choosing a sexless lifestyle because of their religion beliefs as few people think. I don't really know if Ragtime actually believes that, probably he could claim homosexuality can be a result from it.
I can't see that at all. Indeed, Raggy would be
trying to make himself gay, in that case.
Indeed, my mother remembers that all the
priests in her day had girlfriends, so I rather
suspect that this is a fairly modern phenomena.
well, I heard there are a few sects that differ from that aspect about allowing their priests to get married, and I believe the vatican doesn't aprove, and they don't consider them to be "real catholics".
12 Aug 2007, 9:31 pm
calandale wrote:
jfrmeister wrote:
She has a habit of doing that calandale, I'm still bummed that she won't post pictures of her hourglass figure.
You'll just have to take my word on it then.
'Tis nice.
And no, nothing odd there. We were in the same town.
You've got me confused here. I thought Sedaka was from Kentucky??
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12 Aug 2007, 9:32 pm
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
for all my jest... i dont even consider myself bi...i
And all at once, you crush my hopes.
i can put on a show (for those i love/care for) or watch just fine...
but i cant lie to myself....
it's just kinda indifferent
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12 Aug 2007, 10:06 pm
Sedaka wrote:
rag's pole
I really don't want to think about this.
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but i wouldnt feel the same on the receiving end.... without significant imaginary supplementation thinking about men...
Yeah. No saying that there couldn't be
a male there too though.
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but then, i define that as still not even being bi... since im not mentally there.
Spoils my ideals, but this is pretty much
what we dealt with in the one serious attempt.
Sucked too. Really just came down to me having
a harem, which isn't enough.
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12 Aug 2007, 10:15 pm
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
rag's pole
I really don't want to think about this.
Quote:
but i wouldnt feel the same on the receiving end.... without significant imaginary supplementation thinking about men...
Yeah. No saying that there couldn't be
a male there too though.
Quote:
but then, i define that as still not even being bi... since im not mentally there.
Spoils my ideals, but this is pretty much
what we dealt with in the one serious attempt.
Sucked too. Really just came down to me having
a harem, which isn't enough.
-i dont much care to think about it either
-having a guy there would help
-i would be doing it for her too, silly. it can be fun...
12 Aug 2007, 10:18 pm
12 Aug 2007, 10:35 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Well, my religion considers a person's intent above an outcome. For instance, I could have surrendered long ago to my lifelong urge to screw girls who wanted me, and could have said, "This is just who I am. Why fight it?" But since my Bible says sex is absolutely wrong outside of marriage, I reined myself in, and still do. I've never had sex with anyone but my wife, and have turned down plenty of offers for casual sex. Am I denying who I am, by demonstrating that I have control over my penis? No, because who I am IS a man who has control over his penis.
/sigh
you used this comparison in the homosexuality thread... or something close
the difference is that you stated your HOMO attraction was forced.... whereas your attraction to these girls has been "lifelong" as you're now putting it
but oh... wait... you avoided answering that question for so long that by the time you addressed it... you forgot what the direct comparison was and tried to pass it off as me being stupid and not understanding that you weren't ACUTALLY comparing the two things
this is the second time you're trying to make this case and it's still not gonna fly
Theory of Mind issues, we have. It's not going to get any better.
Realize we're using slightly different mental languages, and things will make more sense. My attraction to girls has been lifelong, except for less than 1% that was asexual. As for the homo thought experiments, they never nulified my hetero cravings.
Guess I should have mentioned that earlier in the other thread -- so I wasn't so much momentarily gay as bi. But of course, neither you nor anyone else thought to ask me if my love of women faded during my love of men. It was an addition, not a replacement.
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12 Aug 2007, 10:43 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Well, my religion considers a person's intent above an outcome. For instance, I could have surrendered long ago to my lifelong urge to screw girls who wanted me, and could have said, "This is just who I am. Why fight it?" But since my Bible says sex is absolutely wrong outside of marriage, I reined myself in, and still do. I've never had sex with anyone but my wife, and have turned down plenty of offers for casual sex. Am I denying who I am, by demonstrating that I have control over my penis? No, because who I am IS a man who has control over his penis.
/sigh
you used this comparison in the homosexuality thread... or something close
the difference is that you stated your HOMO attraction was forced.... whereas your attraction to these girls has been "lifelong" as you're now putting it
but oh... wait... you avoided answering that question for so long that by the time you addressed it... you forgot what the direct comparison was and tried to pass it off as me being stupid and not understanding that you weren't ACUTALLY comparing the two things
this is the second time you're trying to make this case and it's still not gonna fly
Theory of Mind issues, we have. It's not going to get any better.
Realize we're using slightly different mental languages, and things will make more sense. My attraction to girls has been lifelong, except for less than 1% that was asexual. As for the homo thought experiments, they never nulified my hetero cravings. Guess I should have mentioned that earlier in the other thread -- so I wasn't so much momentarily gay as bi. But of course, neither you nor anyone else thought to ask me.Quite with the Theory of Mind BS.... you do understand what a comparison is, don't you? I've explained the terms many times... of the things you're comparing... and you've parrotted them back to me, so i know you can at least type out the words.
you can't be that stupid
And as for you being Bi as opposed to Gay.......... are you conceding a Difference?
(this would not help your "comparison", nor would it help things you've said about gay vs bi elsewhere recently)
and if you really were even bi.... then that blatant loophole would have jumped out at you a bazillion yrs ago as a possible response to me thrashing your "comparison"....
which you're not even doing now.... cause you're not even bi.....
i have contemplated F***ing women... that doesn't make me either of the two either
and i doubt someone even Bi would describe their attraction to the same sex as being "forced"... especially compared to their "lifelong" attraction to women
you just keep getting more and more tangled in your own web
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