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27 Feb 2009, 6:50 pm

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Why can't we all just agree that it isn't Americans we hate, it's the American Middle Class?

Well, the US government certainly agrees with you.

A productive but uncontroled Middle Class is antithetical to the preferred stratification of "Urban Elite" and "Victim"... except it is the Middle Class that the Urban Elite steal from to coddle the "Victims" who keep electing the Urban Elite to power.


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27 Feb 2009, 7:02 pm

MrMisanthrope wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Why can't we all just agree that it isn't Americans we hate, it's the American Middle Class?

Well, the US government certainly agrees with you.

A productive but uncontroled Middle Class is antithetical to the preferred stratification of "Urban Elite" and "Victim"... except it is the Middle Class that the Urban Elite steal from to coddle the "Victims" who keep electing the Urban Elite to power.

I could prepare an elaborate explanation of why the middle class is the devil, but I'm going to reduce it to simple emotion: Never before in the history of the world has their been a class of people so posh, with so much dipshitery, yet so whiny.

I mean, steal from? What the hell is being stolen from the middle class? Certainly not tax revenue, the majority of that comes from the upper classes. Certainly not actual goods, because [marxist]that comes from the working class[/marxist]. The middle class' primary export: vast quantities of whine.

No seriously, I don't care about the existence of the middle class, I just plain can't stand them on a personal level.


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27 Feb 2009, 7:41 pm

twoshots wrote:
MrMisanthrope wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Why can't we all just agree that it isn't Americans we hate, it's the American Middle Class?

Well, the US government certainly agrees with you.

A productive but uncontroled Middle Class is antithetical to the preferred stratification of "Urban Elite" and "Victim"... except it is the Middle Class that the Urban Elite steal from to coddle the "Victims" who keep electing the Urban Elite to power.

I could prepare an elaborate explanation of why the middle class is the devil, but I'm going to reduce it to simple emotion: Never before in the history of the world has their been a class of people so posh, with so much dipshitery, yet so whiny.

I mean, steal from? What the hell is being stolen from the middle class? Certainly not tax revenue, the majority of that comes from the upper classes. Certainly not actual goods, because [marxist]that comes from the working class[/marxist]. The middle class' primary export: vast quantities of whine.

No seriously, I don't care about the existence of the middle class, I just plain can't stand them on a personal level.


Sounds like you got a lot of hate build up.



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27 Feb 2009, 7:42 pm

Not specifically. My bile is available to all people, irrespective of race creed or class. :flower:


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27 Feb 2009, 7:50 pm

^ :lol: I can taste it from here.



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27 Feb 2009, 7:53 pm

If you don't like US culture then don't watch it If you all don't watch no ratings and they'd find something else to amuse you game over


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27 Feb 2009, 7:53 pm

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USA's main contributions to the world in recent years: wars for Israel and an avalanche of pop-culture filth.
The two are not wholly unrelated.


TEH JOOZ. TEH JOOZ. TEH JOOZ.

Find a new topic, kthx.


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27 Feb 2009, 8:21 pm

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If you don't like US culture then don't watch it If you all don't watch no ratings and they'd find something else to amuse you game over


They cannot hate us if they don't watch us. We are like FOX news to them, you just gotta watch to see what is gonna happen next.



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28 Feb 2009, 3:32 am

MrMisanthrope wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Why can't we all just agree that it isn't Americans we hate, it's the American Middle Class?

Well, the US government certainly agrees with you.

A productive but uncontroled Middle Class is antithetical to the preferred stratification of "Urban Elite" and "Victim"... except it is the Middle Class that the Urban Elite steal from to coddle the "Victims" who keep electing the Urban Elite to power.


You need elites to run any country above the size of the Most Honourable Republic of San Marino: One of the problems of the previous administration was deep misunderstanding how foreign politics works, how the hyper-complex dynamics within Europe and the Middle East works. There was a misunderstanding what consequences on the economy the deficit spending on the so-called "War on Terror" has, etc.

To run today a country on the long term successfully a country need a highly skilled and educated elite - on the political sector as well as on the technological sector. Whilst such people are within the "urban elites" rare enough, they are hardly to find within the lower "middle class" (what you would call simple "middle class") and even less often to find in the lower classes. Voters how vote for someone "of us" are dangerous, because they have a tendency to vote the people into office which have the same limited horizon like themselves.



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28 Feb 2009, 3:56 am

Dussel wrote:
MrMisanthrope wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Why can't we all just agree that it isn't Americans we hate, it's the American Middle Class?

Well, the US government certainly agrees with you.

A productive but uncontroled Middle Class is antithetical to the preferred stratification of "Urban Elite" and "Victim"... except it is the Middle Class that the Urban Elite steal from to coddle the "Victims" who keep electing the Urban Elite to power.


You need elites to run any country above the size of the Most Honourable Republic of San Marino: One of the problems of the previous administration was deep misunderstanding how foreign politics works, how the hyper-complex dynamics within Europe and the Middle East works. There was a misunderstanding what consequences on the economy the deficit spending on the so-called "War on Terror" has, etc.

To run today a country on the long term successfully a country need a highly skilled and educated elite - on the political sector as well as on the technological sector. Whilst such people are within the "urban elites" rare enough, they are hardly to find within the lower "middle class" (what you would call simple "middle class") and even less often to find in the lower classes. Voters how vote for someone "of us" are dangerous, because they have a tendency to vote the people into office which have the same limited horizon like themselves.


I don't think the war had anything to do with the recession/soon to be depression. That is a drop in the bucket. The reason we have problems with the economy is because of the fact that we have a lot of greed and lack of regulation.



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28 Feb 2009, 6:42 am

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I am wondering why so many people the USA.

I understand that many people are upset about Iraq. But most Americans don't agree with that war either, and the administration.

Doesn't the help done by many of people for WWII, or the inventions it has made count for anything?

Doesn't or defense of smaller nations that are picked on count for anything?

How about the Billions of dollars in aid we give to Africa, Mexico, and other third world nations mean anything?

How about the trillions of debt we absorbed in stopping the USSR?

Why do you hate the USA?


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28 Feb 2009, 7:07 am

I hate all governments in one way or another.

As for how much I like or dislike the people in them?

Just like soylent green, it varies from person to person.



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28 Feb 2009, 8:38 am

I just wish the Brits would learn to pronounce English in its rightful language.

I can hardly understand their dialects or why they got bad teeth.... :rabbit:


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28 Feb 2009, 11:31 am

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parts wrote:
If you don't like US culture then don't watch it If you all don't watch no ratings and they'd find something else to amuse you game over


They cannot hate us if they don't watch us. We are like FOX news to them, you just gotta watch to see what is gonna happen next.


Then xxxx them it's their own fault they can mind their own business


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28 Feb 2009, 6:06 pm

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USA's main contributions to the world in recent years: wars for Israel and an avalanche of pop-culture filth.
The two are not wholly unrelated.


So you're basically alluding to the fact that the USA is bad because our government is not antisemitic enough??? :roll:



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28 Feb 2009, 6:15 pm

Haliphron wrote:
codarac wrote:
USA's main contributions to the world in recent years: wars for Israel and an avalanche of pop-culture filth.
The two are not wholly unrelated.


So you're basically alluding to the fact that the USA is bad because our government is not antisemitic enough??? :roll:

Anti-Israel =/= Antisemitic

I hold no grudge against Jews, in fact many Jews have made a lot of contributions, but seriously - the whole Israel idea was a bad idea to begin with, considering that there was already Palestine.


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