Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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Your loss.

My issue was that she was being heterosexist when she mentioned women being beaten by their husbands. Domestic violence is a problem in the lesbian community, as well.

That said, I am a feminist and believe that some violence is gendered and needs its own unique form of analysis and prevention to reflect that fact.



You really haven't met many feminists if you think that to be the case.

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Their is also Domestic abuse between men who are couples but they hate the fact the Valentine isnt afriad to speak her mind most people hate that im pretty sure im her least favorite person on WP as well but oh well their is a list of people that dislike me on this website

Yeah just not to the extreme where they believe that all men should be rounded up and put in death camps etc.

I love how any mention of anything somehow related to a goal of feminism somehow always leads people to talk about their concerns about those women that want the extermination and castration of all men.

- Hey I think it would be rad if women with the same exact jobs, qualification and performance as men received the same salary.
- I cannot stand feminists as they want to destroy all men and have gender superiority instead of equality!! >(

And I mean, seriously. If only this didn't happen in any topic somehow related to sexism. Somehow, the perform calling sexism out (even when the sexism is real and verifiable) The default reaction is to warn people about the dangers of the misandrist femininazi plot. And I mean, if I didn't see this flesh out 4 posts after the first complaint about a toy overusing pink in its attempts to cater to girls and turn into a bombastic flame war about how feminists ruin everything. I wouldn't believe it. If I didn't see an article written by a female game designed about how maybe it should be nice to be able to skip gameplay just as story cinematics can be skipped can then turn into bombastic attacks about how female game designers are what's wrong with the whole industry and then turn into the same feminazi flamewar the second after someone happened to mention that those comments were utterly sexist. I wouldn't believe it.

Somehow someone managed to imprint the view that feminists are a conspiracy that want the opposite of equality rather than equality in the minds and souls of all American dudes. For some reason my pattern matching makes me think of attributing this to Fox News.

If that was a response to my post, I was only referring to the extremist ones I know those ones make a rather small percentage of feminists. I think both genders should be on equal grounds not higher or lower than the other. But yes equality should be in order. I truly agree with that, no hatred or prejudice of either side.

I'm quite happy to live without that 'loss'.

A lot of men love to make women look bad.

I was going to leave this thread, but I suppose I can add another post for LKL and Valentine to split up into sentences and shout down with vitriolic rhetoric. That impression is given when I perceive the demands women are making without having established that what they are fighting is based on sexual discrimination. For instance, why should women get additional points added to their GPAs when applying for male dominated college classes? Why should women be required in management and on boards if they are not the best qualified person for the position? Why should gender based violence be worse than just violence?

Another issue is that many members of the feminist league seem to be oblivious or ignorant of the misandry within the movement or significantly downplay it.

> Where I live, there are approximately ten thousand cases of supposed rape each year.
> It has been shown that even professional judges and forensic researchers usually pick sides, and they have to specifically instruct them to not take everything said by the alleged victim as undeniable fact.
> Over a tenth of the cases is quickly and admittedly found to be the product of intentional lies, according to a judicial coordinator.
> People are taught to hate suspects of these crimes. Recently, the workplace of a man suspected of being a child abuser was vandalised with a statement saying he should be killed.

Honestly, I'd punish people (note my avoidance of the word 'women', as even though most false cases are submitted by women, some men also do this) intentionally filing false complaints more severely.
Even rumours about that are enough to utterly ruin any person's reputation, ruin their family and their career. In that respect, they're sometimes worse than the alleged crimes themselves.



Equal pay and working conditions are fine. However, it's not the case. Women are at a point where they have an advantage.
They have the right to work, but not the responsibility to work. The right to join the military, but not the responsibility to risk having their legs blown off in Afghanistan.
There's more - large corporations are or will be required in some major jurisdictions to hire a certain percentage of women regardless of competence, and women get advantages in education starting at age four here.

As the discussion, as always, is ignored the moment I counterargue, I'll put forth a quote that explains fully what my problem with western feminism is.
If even that fails, we'll have a nice, clean argument devoid of proper logic and argumentation and simply consisting of insults and rhetoric. Perhaps I'm doing this because I can't get a girlfriend? Speculate!
Here's a joke I encountered that summarises the type of politics displayed by feminists.

"Women should be treated equally to men - except when women are treated better."

This, basically, is my full interpretation of feminism in any developed country I've read about or visited so far.

If a man puts a woman in a box he is putting god in a box.

If a man undresses in the window and a woman sees him he's a flasher, if a woman undresses in the window and a man sees her, he's a voyeur.

This is exactly the problem - no effort is made to respond to common logic or argumentation. Instead, you choose to substitute vague one-liners that make me wonder what kind of a mediocre troll you are.
That said, I welcome you to venture into the wond'rous land of logic and attempt to discredit me.

I've been accused of sexual harassment more times than I can count. Even though I thought I was innocent I used each incident as a way for me to grow. After I lost some weight and started to work out and wore a suite to work one day my accuser who filed a written complaint asked me out on a date.

I'm doubting the weight loss and suit changes whether you were or were not harassing someone.

I'm not. I've heard of these things too often to be even remotely surprised.
Just today, I've heard a similar story. Basically, it boils down to whether or not you are attractive.
Rule of the thumb, as inspired by Warren Farrell, who should be required reading for every feminist:

If you're a man, and considered attractive, and flirt with a woman, it's flirting;
If you're a man, and considered unattractive, and flirt with a woman, it's harrassment;
If you're a woman, and considered attractive, and flirt with a man, it's flirting no-legal-risk;
If you're a woman, and considered unattractive, and flirt with a man, it's awkward flirting no-legal-risk.