Do you believe in God?

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Grace is also important to this "Reader and Righter"

I have conversations on this thread's topic with people face to face. The last one was 7th hour today. Do any of you have off line /in person discussions on all of your interesting post, theories and debates?
I hope (tempted to write pray) you do.
Seriously and "Sewiously" yours.

Victor Stenger. I've been reading critiques of Stenger:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.4647v2.pdf
It's difficult to understand for the layman, but he makes some good points.

Alas....I don't know people who enjoy cosmology.

Not really. I don't have many in-person discussions outside of work.

I am blessed with a few people at and after work to talk with.
That includes my wife who also believes. (Equally yoked)

Could you elaborate? Seem to me, as bellow understanding "nothingness" is, it's the most simple (non)state of things, not existing; thus the question "Why something rather than nothing."
By "nothingness" of course I mean not only vacuum, but a lack of space, time, physic laws and (maybe) even mathematical laws. A complete absence of "being" or "things".
I admit I am biased to leave open the possibility of God and the afterlife (Without a God, who can save us from the nothing after death?), as the idea of the nothing after death terrify me.

Are you implying that I am a layman?

Last edited by Deltaville on 26 Apr 2016, 1:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Again, I am not sure that you understand the notion behind the concepts that you cite as an example. Any quantum flux, can only be generated if there is a anchoring quantum vacuum that provides the energy to generate the said quantum flux. The energy in the quantum vacuum permits the formation of temporary, and short lasting virtual particles. But the second law of thermodynamics will prevail as due to conservation of energy, the particles must cease to exist. Moreover, even if the second law of thermodynamics was not an issue, the next step is the difficulty of transitioning a quantum state (governed by quantum mechanics) to a classical state (governed by general relativity).

No, that I am.

You're not the only one.

Don't worry, no one experiences death. By definition.

On Death

You would know the secret of death.
But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?
The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.
If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.
For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.


In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond;
And like seeds dreaming beneath the snow your heart dreams of spring.
Trust the dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.
Your fear of death is but the trembling of the shepherd when he stands before the king whose hand is to be laid upon him in honour.
Is the shepherd not joyful beneath his trembling, that he shall wear the mark of the king?
Yet is he not more mindful of his trembling?


For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun?
And what is it to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered?


Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.
And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.
And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.


The Prophet- Kahlil Gibran

You shouldn't let poets lie to you.

Björk

Is that a koan? XD

Is anything not?

The First Law of thermodynamics is logically independent of the Second Law. Energy is conserved even if all processes are reversible. In fact the most basic physical laws which hold at the subatomic level are time reversible. Which has always been a puzzle for physicists since the time of Boltzmann. If the basic laws of mechanics hold and energy is conserved then whence comes the directionality of Time.?