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29 Dec 2011, 10:09 pm

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moderate republicans will reject his economic policies.
strong republicans will reject his national security policy.

his support lies in some independents and libertarians (less than 3% of the country), and thats it.


John Birch Society paleoconservatives will also probably vote for him.


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29 Dec 2011, 10:24 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
minervx wrote:
moderate republicans will reject his economic policies.
strong republicans will reject his national security policy.

his support lies in some independents and libertarians (less than 3% of the country), and thats it.


John Birch Society paleoconservatives will also probably vote for him.


Because of shared clinical paranoia, I presume.

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29 Dec 2011, 11:58 pm

What is a "strong" republican? Is that like Arnold Scwartzwnegger?

If you mean neocons, the actual ideologues are only a small % of the party. The base of the GOP's views are a lot closer to Ron Paul than you think. No Republican has the guts to take Ron on with economic issues. They'll try to scare folks into a war frenzy with Iran and then go after Ron on social issues. Then you just have the outright smears that have been thrown at him lately. These guys can't talk about anything in substance.

Ron appeals to independents, civil libertarian/anti-war democrats, Old Right conservatives, as well as republicans who have just plain had enough with the good ole boys in the party. A heck of a lot more than just 3% of the country.



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30 Dec 2011, 8:28 am

Jacoby wrote:
What is a "strong" republican? Is that like Arnold Scwartzwnegger?

If you mean neocons, the actual ideologues are only a small % of the party. The base of the GOP's views are a lot closer to Ron Paul than you think. No Republican has the guts to take Ron on with economic issues. They'll try to scare folks into a war frenzy with Iran and then go after Ron on social issues. Then you just have the outright smears that have been thrown at him lately. These guys can't talk about anything in substance.

Ron appeals to independents, civil libertarian/anti-war democrats, Old Right conservatives, as well as republicans who have just plain had enough with the good ole boys in the party. A heck of a lot more than just 3% of the country.

From reading The 5,000 Year Leap I think K Cleon Skousen would like a lot of what he's about, he'd like a lot of what the tea party is about as well. The two things that I think chase people away from Paul though are pull up all military bases around the world and legalize heroin. It seems like everything else a conservative would love; those last two things sound great to a wildly black-and-white libertarian base but anyone else sees them as sounding great to some in theory but aweful in practice.


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30 Dec 2011, 1:04 pm

With the legalization of prostitution Ron Paul is rapidly losing the religious right vote.



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30 Dec 2011, 1:25 pm

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With the legalization of prostitution Ron Paul is rapidly losing the religious right vote.

Heh, as he picks up the aspie vote. :lol:


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30 Dec 2011, 1:54 pm

Philosophically he probably thinks it should be legalized but it's not like he's advocating for that on a federal level. That's completely a state issue AFAIK.

But yea, I don't know why creeps like Dick Morris hate Ron Paul if this is the case.



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30 Dec 2011, 2:34 pm

And of course when Mitt Romney gets into office it will be legal for a man to have 2 wives.



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30 Dec 2011, 2:35 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Philosophically he probably thinks it should be legalized but it's not like he's advocating for that on a federal level. That's completely a state issue AFAIK.

But yea, I don't know why creeps like Dick Morris hate Ron Paul if this is the case.


I still remember ol' Dick Morris and his prostitution scandal back during the Clinton years. He's so sleazy, I can't see how he can get by without peeling off his own skin.

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30 Dec 2011, 2:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Philosophically he probably thinks it should be legalized but it's not like he's advocating for that on a federal level. That's completely a state issue AFAIK.

But yea, I don't know why creeps like Dick Morris hate Ron Paul if this is the case.


I still ol' Dick Morris and his prostitution scandal back during the Clinton years. He's so sleazy, I can't see how he can get by without peeling off his own skin.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He was so much of a creepy perv that he got kicked out of the Clinton administration. That if anything is impressive.

Dick has been one of the guys freaking out about Ron Paul that most, saying that Ron Paul is the most radical leftist to run for the Presidency in 50 years. :lol:



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30 Dec 2011, 3:04 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Philosophically he probably thinks it should be legalized but it's not like he's advocating for that on a federal level. That's completely a state issue AFAIK.

But yea, I don't know why creeps like Dick Morris hate Ron Paul if this is the case.


I still ol' Dick Morris and his prostitution scandal back during the Clinton years. He's so sleazy, I can't see how he can get by without peeling off his own skin.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He was so much of a creepy perv that he got kicked out of the Clinton administration. That if anything is impressive.

Dick has been one of the guys freaking out about Ron Paul that most, saying that Ron Paul is the most radical leftist to run for the Presidency in 50 years. :lol:


So in regard to being most leftist, someone on Fox is saying Obama has to take the number two slot? :lol:

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30 Dec 2011, 3:16 pm

So under the Ron Paul regime it will be legal for drug dealers to sell dope to high school kids?



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30 Dec 2011, 3:21 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
So under the Ron Paul regime it will be legal for drug dealers to sell dope to high school kids?


Is it legal to sell alcohol to high school kids?