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03 Apr 2012, 4:21 pm

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I love it here for the most part, even with the problems we have :P


I just find most Quebecers to be incredibly rude to anyone who speaks English. I know absolutely no French, so it would be.... interesting.


Yeah there is a lot of that. It really depends on where you go. I am in Montreal, somewhere on the West Island, which is probably 50% anglophone. Most of the worst prejudice comes from places other than Montreal, but the prejudice that does exist here burns brighter than average due to the large Anglo population infuriating some xenophobic francophones. In addition, they pass to the right, crazyyyy people :P


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03 Apr 2012, 4:22 pm

i cam as far as looking at plane tickets :oops:


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03 Apr 2012, 4:23 pm

There is one thing I can assure you gentlemen- the grass is indeed greener here, though with abundant red hairs :P


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03 Apr 2012, 4:37 pm

When I am stoned I see visions of heaven. I wonder what the Church would think of that?



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03 Apr 2012, 4:51 pm

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When I am stoned I see visions of heaven. I wonder what the Church would think of that?


In the time of christ, marijuana was heavily used. Jesus was a stoner.

Jesus as a matter of fact would have more than likely been a black stoner wandering around the dessert in a robe and sandals. Jesus was THE hippy.


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03 Apr 2012, 4:54 pm

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When I am stoned I see visions of heaven. I wonder what the Church would think of that?


In the time of christ, marijuana was heavily used. Jesus was a stoner.

Jesus as a matter of fact would have more than likely been a black stoner wandering around the dessert in a robe and sandals. Jesus was THE hippy.


I smoked with him just last week 8)


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03 Apr 2012, 5:00 pm

I accidentally ingested some hallucinogenic mold. Does that make me a sinner? I saw visions of a future free love society. But no one can get into this society unless they are a virgin. So does that make these people promiscuos ?



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03 Apr 2012, 5:02 pm

The Only reason marijuana is still illegal is because it's an excuse to put people in jail and make money for the Judicial branch of the US gubbermint.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

Jesus fasted for 40 days.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:09 pm

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Jesus fasted for 40 days.


If I remember correctly he also did not drink.

Also known as, the bible is a smouldering pile of bull. :lol:


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03 Apr 2012, 5:10 pm

If you smoke pot with the agenda to have a good time all the time no matter what, then it'll be easier to move on to harder drugs as the law of diminishing returns sets in.

I know a couple who are drug free who have a huge appetite for simple pleasures and limited tolerance for anything unpleasant. They live off govt assistance and play videogames all day, theyve put on a lot of weight since I first met them, have horrible hygiene, and people don't want to be around them, plus their house is a real sh*t hole.

People with a hedonistic mindset are a liability no matter what you give or take from them.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:16 pm

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No. Usage historically skyrockets when a substance is decriminalized, and the causative relationship between cannabis and psychotic illness places it in a category unique from currently-legal drugs...which themselves are responsible for millions of dollars in health care.


Cannabis does not cause psychosis. What it *can* do is trigger it in people who are already mentally ill.


Actually, the largest study ever done on the subject involved 46,000 subjects, controlled for pre-existing mental illness, and found using marijuana 1-10 times put users in a group 1.5 times more likely to be diagnoses with schizophrenia later in life, and using more than that resulted in odds 2.3 times greater. This was a longitudinal study, following participants for 15 years.
Schiophrenia in users and non-users
Other studies even accounted for other types of substance abuse, and confirmed the original findings.
Use as a Risk Factor

Other studies show a link between transient psychotic symptoms in healthy individuals and potent cannabis use.
Psychosis in Healthy People

The evidence that memory and intelligence are negatively affected in heavy users is rock-solid, but we'll assume "heavy" by definition represents a non-majority number of users.

Until people plan on getting tested for the genetic markers for schizophrenia prior to usage of cannabis (which, by the way, I believe are still only estimated to be responsible for 50% of all cases), whether the drug causes it or acts in conjunction with genes is pretty moot.





Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Until you can cite a scientific article demonstrating a direct causality between THC consumption and schizophrenia, I call malarkey.
The myth that marijuana causes schizophrenia has already been debunked.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:21 pm

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If you smoke pot with the agenda to have a good time all the time no matter what, then it'll be easier to move on to harder drugs as the law of diminishing returns sets in.

I know a couple who are drug free who have a huge appetite for simple pleasures and limited tolerance for anything unpleasant. They live off govt assistance and play videogames all day, theyve put on a lot of weight since I first met them, have horrible hygiene, and people don't want to be around them, plus their house is a real sh*t hole.

People with a hedonistic mindset are a liability no matter what you give or take from them.




So what you're saying is that the hedonistic mindset makes people harder to exploit when it comes to milking as much labor out of them as humanly possible, while giving them back as little as you can get away with. Got it.

I think I'll become a hedonist too. :mrgreen:



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03 Apr 2012, 5:22 pm

So what happens to a persons mind when they fast for 40 days? Do they hallucinate?



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03 Apr 2012, 5:26 pm

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So what happens to a persons mind when they fast for 40 days? Do they hallucinate?



They die.



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03 Apr 2012, 5:26 pm

MDD123 wrote:
If you smoke pot with the agenda to have a good time all the time no matter what, then it'll be easier to move on to harder drugs as the law of diminishing returns sets in.

I know a couple who are drug free who have a huge appetite for simple pleasures and limited tolerance for anything unpleasant. They live off govt assistance and play videogames all day, theyve put on a lot of weight since I first met them, have horrible hygiene, and people don't want to be around them, plus their house is a real sh*t hole.

People with a hedonistic mindset are a liability no matter what you give or take from them.


If I was living off govt assistance, I would still keep my house clean......I love to turn on music and clean, I also can only stand my own filth for so long so I'd still shower at least once a week and go outside. There is no way in hell I could sit there and play video games all day every day, I'd get so bored.

Also how do you suggest people use weed with the agenda to have a bad time? wouldn't make much sense........also if marijuana is a 'gateway' drug so is alcohol and nicotine. Drinking with the agenda to have a good time might make one more open to illegal substances.


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