Mormonism might be good for aspies in that

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That's how I feel, there's a real lack of objective information about Mormonism, one side is to make the church look good, while the rest of it is from those who incorrectly call it a cult. I don't believe Mormonism is a cult at all, even though they're pretty conservative in their beliefs.

My ex was also Mormon, and although we didn't move to Utah, he tried to convert me and when it became clear that I wouldn't convert for any man, we went our seperate ways. NT on steroids is a good way to describe both my ex and some of the Mormons I've met at his church when I've gone. Now, my ex was the exception in that he was controlling, while most Mormon men aren't that way in my experience. The Mormons I'm friends with now don't try to convert me because they also believe that religion is a private matter.

There are many good things about Mormonism, including how family-centered it is, and the concept of food storage. However, food storage isn't unique to Mormons at all, I remember hearing about how important it is to be prepared from secular authorities in case the "Big One" hits the San Andreas, or other earthquake fault. Just seeing the Katrina aftermath is another reminder that we do need to be prepared to take care of our families in the event of a major disaster where the local government and grocery stores shut down.

Someone lock this thread, please!

Why? I think that for the most part this thread has been pretty civil. Misconceptions about Mormons exist everywhere, including here. I think that it has been positive to get some of the misconceptions people have out into the open and cleared up.

Cernunnos posted this a while back:

Mormons don't believe in a hell per se. They believe in an outer darkness, where people that have rejected the church after being recieved in it. They also believe in baptism of the dead, where they can 'save' the people that didn't get baptized into the Mormon church in their lifetimes that are already dead (or "baptism by proxy"). They have three levels of Heaven: The one with God in it, the one with the Holy Spirit in it, and the one with Jesus in it. They don't believe in the Trinity as most Christians do, but they believe that God is a separate from Jesus and the Holy Spirit, hence the three levels of Heaven. They believe that to get into the top Heaven (the one with God), one must be baptized into the church, be married, and attend temple (they have to get a temple reccomend from their area bishop first), where they learn secret handshakes, passwords, and how to open the door into Heaven (I think it's by using a veil?), which they believed is guarded by angels. They believe that people that make it into that heaven get to be rewarded by being gods of their own world and bearing spirit children for eternity, just as they believe that God once had to do and is currently doing.

I think it is wrong to baptise the dead.

I have heard that Mormons actually do it very often. One Jewish person who heard it decided to check if his grandfather was baptised, and lo and behold he was.

Also i have heard that Mormons baptised Hitler after death. I have no clue why.

imo that's right up there with checking 'no' on organ donorship-only it doesn't matter, the families will be requested to check yes, to reconsider, ect.

Our licenses only have the yes option-meaning-you could leave it blank (*for the paramedic to click yes) , in any case you could not click NO. you just couldn't answer.

fishy.

Jews must be buried with all their parts intact by the way.

Don't we all do things we shouldn't with good intent.



I have no problems with mormons. They try to get inside and say cruel things through the door and tell us were all going to burn in hell. From what I've read though.... they are not REALLY like that.

I cannot be a member of the LDS. Had part of my family who joined in Nauvoo head south with Smiths' sons. Hell, I can't even get any info from the Archives cause of that. Well, there's also the drinking, smoking, and love of caffienated drinks that I ain't giving up for a pair of magic longjohns.



Can I just get the longjohns instead?

[quote="SeaBright"]
Don't we all do things we shouldn't with good intent.
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There's a saying that says that:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


In other words, people do things that would get them into hell (sin) despite the fact that they meant well.

That's why Christians believe that Jesus payed the price that no one else could. It's supposed to be about the heart rather than our sinful past, or the fact that we would choose to serve Jesus rather than Satan.

Someone pointed out this thread to me.

Janicka has really made some good points about the church, very accurate information.

I've been a Mormon for forever, and realistically, I have problems with my faith. I don't understand it all, and sometimes parts of it don't make sense to me. I've lived in Utah, and absolutely HATED it.

But what I don't have problems with are the results. The results are that my family has less chaos and seems happier than most families. We don't think that we know everything or have the answers to all religious questions, we just are trying hard to live a life that helps others and is exemplary. We fail often, but we keep trying anyway.

And, I fully admit that other religions do just as good a job as we do.

I was quite frankly amazed when my son decided to go on a mission. He really questioned our faith while he was in high school. But he doesn't seem to question it anymore. That is quite a miracle to me, in that he usually needs concrete evidence of something before he will believe in it. And we all know, faith is not concrete.

Kris

haaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa that is so true and made me lol

First, there is nothing in the Book of Mormon about "hot beverages", it's in the Docterine & Covenents, you twit. Also, I know a ton of black Mormons. Finally, it's not cult as someone else already stated a cult is defined as having under a million members, there is over a million Mormons just in Brazil.

You have the right to opinions, but not to spread false information.

I'd rather be shot in the face then be a Mormon.

The question is does the Mormans need to aquire and retain more aspies?
It appers to have some benifits to aspies in social rules and structure to help with there social diffculities. But as most religons it has some very whacked dogma.
If you want wealth power and influence, Ashkenazi Jews anyone? They are speculated to have hight number of aspies.
You would want to look at this from a memetics point of view. You would creat a sub religon within the Mormans, you could borrow from various Jewish faths and some other things then tweek it to your sub Morman group or what ever you want to call it. It would give aspie what they needed to grow sucessful in life and the Morman church would benift from there highly talented members.

Think of it this way Mr. Morman Church, would you like to see Salt Lake City be the Silicon Valley of the future?