Homosexuality, Gayness, Lesbian and Bisexuality...
25 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Since like the other day I've been watching lesbian Anime and my mom doesn't even know about it. I'm hiding what I'm doing behind her back. I feel so guilty for some reason or should I really? If she knew though she'd be really mad and like earlier when I came into the living room she was watching something and she's like "Don't worry. Its nothing gay." because she knows that I didn't normally like to watch anything gay. So it wasn't anything gay, because she doesn't watch gay stuff. I have told her that I still don't like to watch anything gay, but that was a couple of weeks ago. Now I've changed and started watching lesbian Anime for the first time the other day. If she only knew...She probably suspects that maybe I'm gonna try to be straight. Though now every time I go over to my aunt and my cousin's house she's like "Don't let her kiss you." and "Don't go gay with her." You know cause like I said my cousin is a lesbian? and I'm like "I'm not. I would never do anything with her" Anyway that would be incest, of course I wouldn't kiss my own cousin. That's just sick. I'm not even going to let my cousin know that I'm kind of interested in the same sex. If her and her mother only knew. They'd be like "Oh she's not the good girl anymore like she used to be." Its like really going to ruin my reputation sense I was always the good one. My mom keeps reminding me of that too which makes me feel really horrible, but it would really ruin things for me if they found out. I mean because my mom is always bragging to everyone how great I am, telling them how much better I am then I am then my cousin, telling my aunt and my cousin how wrong it is to be a lesbian and now this has to ruin it. I feel really bad.
As I said earlier, on your thread in the LGBT section of the forum, your mother is a control freak. Honestly, if she wants to control what you choose to watch, I think that's going way too far on this whole thing.
And based on your post, your mother doesn't sound like she is a good relative period. I mean really, calling your aunt and your cousin out for your cousin's sexuality is just plain wrong. And bragging about you because you are "better" than them is even worse. Simply because someone is homosexual or bisexual or anything other than straight does not make them better or worse than a straight person. You are still a "good girl".
Now as for the fact your mother thinks you might commit incest with your cousin, it sounds like your mother might be at least have schizophrenic tendencies. Schizophrenia doesn't automatically equal hearing voices - schizophrenia is irrational reasoning. For example, if someone thinks that their neighbor is some FBI agent because their neighbor said, "Hi," then that's schizophrenic reasoning. I am surprised that your mother would even think of such a thing.
And I'm going to assume that your aunt and your cousin aren't as committed to Christianity as your mother. So why is your mother such a strict Christian? Was she raised in a family of strict Christians? Or did something happen to her that made her turn to religion?
She pretty much controls every part of my life, to her I'm still like her little girl, but I'd like to start making decisions of my own like this especially. I haven't told her what I was watching. Its not like I'm watching porn. It really wasn't bad at all. Its just a cute lesbian Anime which I know she'd be totally against.
My aunt was already getting pretty snappy with my mom about it the other day when my mom was talking to her about it, because my mom was talking about how its not nice for my cousin to be a lesbian. My aunt is a pretty tough person and my mom got scared of her. When my mom truly finds out my decisions. I feel like that she's not going to think of me as such of a great daughter anymore like she used to. I feel like I've failed her and I tried so much to be like my mom all of my life, but I just don't seem to be turning out that way. I feel horrible and always think to myself that why couldn't I be more like her and now the rest of the family like my other aunts may look down on me sense my cousin was always the one doing the bad things.
Well my cousin has Schizophrenia and I just don't know what's wrong with my mom, but she just doesn't think all right at times about things like this to think I would do something like that with my cousin. I in no way feel attracted to her anyway.
My aunt and my cousin are Christian's too, but my cousin just doesn't bother to follow a lot of the Bible rules like my mom and I do. My aunt was pretty disgusted with my cousin being the way she is too. She told her that it was a sin but, she still accepted her for it anyway. My mom and my aunt were both raised in the same family. They are sisters and were both raised in a Christian family. My aunt is just a little bit more open minded to things then my mom is I believe.
Okay, if you want to become more independent, perhaps you should talk to your mom about it. Don't bring up your sexuality in the conversation - just talk to her about the fact you want to be responsible for yourself. Then you two can work at it from there.
I can understand you wanting to be more like your mother - she appears to be your role model. It also sounds like she was the only one who parented you - you haven't mentioned your father at all. However, there is no way you are going to be exactly like your mom - you two are different people. And at some point, you both need to realize that.
And thank you for answering my other questions.
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25 Mar 2013, 10:09 pm
Dragoness wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Since like the other day I've been watching lesbian Anime and my mom doesn't even know about it. I'm hiding what I'm doing behind her back. I feel so guilty for some reason or should I really? If she knew though she'd be really mad and like earlier when I came into the living room she was watching something and she's like "Don't worry. Its nothing gay." because she knows that I didn't normally like to watch anything gay. So it wasn't anything gay, because she doesn't watch gay stuff. I have told her that I still don't like to watch anything gay, but that was a couple of weeks ago. Now I've changed and started watching lesbian Anime for the first time the other day. If she only knew...She probably suspects that maybe I'm gonna try to be straight. Though now every time I go over to my aunt and my cousin's house she's like "Don't let her kiss you." and "Don't go gay with her." You know cause like I said my cousin is a lesbian? and I'm like "I'm not. I would never do anything with her" Anyway that would be incest, of course I wouldn't kiss my own cousin. That's just sick. I'm not even going to let my cousin know that I'm kind of interested in the same sex. If her and her mother only knew. They'd be like "Oh she's not the good girl anymore like she used to be." Its like really going to ruin my reputation sense I was always the good one. My mom keeps reminding me of that too which makes me feel really horrible, but it would really ruin things for me if they found out. I mean because my mom is always bragging to everyone how great I am, telling them how much better I am then I am then my cousin, telling my aunt and my cousin how wrong it is to be a lesbian and now this has to ruin it. I feel really bad.
As I said earlier, on your thread in the LGBT section of the forum, your mother is a control freak. Honestly, if she wants to control what you choose to watch, I think that's going way too far on this whole thing.
And based on your post, your mother doesn't sound like she is a good relative period. I mean really, calling your aunt and your cousin out for your cousin's sexuality is just plain wrong. And bragging about you because you are "better" than them is even worse. Simply because someone is homosexual or bisexual or anything other than straight does not make them better or worse than a straight person. You are still a "good girl".
Now as for the fact your mother thinks you might commit incest with your cousin, it sounds like your mother might be at least have schizophrenic tendencies. Schizophrenia doesn't automatically equal hearing voices - schizophrenia is irrational reasoning. For example, if someone thinks that their neighbor is some FBI agent because their neighbor said, "Hi," then that's schizophrenic reasoning. I am surprised that your mother would even think of such a thing.
And I'm going to assume that your aunt and your cousin aren't as committed to Christianity as your mother. So why is your mother such a strict Christian? Was she raised in a family of strict Christians? Or did something happen to her that made her turn to religion?
She pretty much controls every part of my life, to her I'm still like her little girl, but I'd like to start making decisions of my own like this especially. I haven't told her what I was watching. Its not like I'm watching porn. It really wasn't bad at all. Its just a cute lesbian Anime which I know she'd be totally against.
My aunt was already getting pretty snappy with my mom about it the other day when my mom was talking to her about it, because my mom was talking about how its not nice for my cousin to be a lesbian. My aunt is a pretty tough person and my mom got scared of her. When my mom truly finds out my decisions. I feel like that she's not going to think of me as such of a great daughter anymore like she used to. I feel like I've failed her and I tried so much to be like my mom all of my life, but I just don't seem to be turning out that way. I feel horrible and always think to myself that why couldn't I be more like her and now the rest of the family like my other aunts may look down on me sense my cousin was always the one doing the bad things.
Well my cousin has Schizophrenia and I just don't know what's wrong with my mom, but she just doesn't think all right at times about things like this to think I would do something like that with my cousin. I in no way feel attracted to her anyway.
My aunt and my cousin are Christian's too, but my cousin just doesn't bother to follow a lot of the Bible rules like my mom and I do. My aunt was pretty disgusted with my cousin being the way she is too. She told her that it was a sin but, she still accepted her for it anyway. My mom and my aunt were both raised in the same family. They are sisters and were both raised in a Christian family. My aunt is just a little bit more open minded to things then my mom is I believe.
Okay, if you want to become more independent, perhaps you should talk to your mom about it. Don't bring up your sexuality in the conversation - just talk to her about the fact you want to be responsible for yourself. Then you two can work at it from there.
I can understand you wanting to be more like your mother - she appears to be your role model. It also sounds like she was the only one who parented you - you haven't mentioned your father at all. However, there is no way you are going to be exactly like your mom - you two are different people. And at some point, you both need to realize that.
And thank you for answering my other questions.
Once I tell her that I want to be independent. Right away she's going to guess its because I like girls. She knows me like a book. I mean its not normal for me to just come out and say that I wanna be independent. So she's gonna know that somethings definitely up.
I think my mom is one of the best people I know and I have always wanted to be just like her. Well I don't know now sense she's being so harsh and condemning of same sex relationships. She's raised me and I've been with her my whole life. My parent's were divorced since a couple of years ago and he just passed away on New Years Even last year anyway, which has been very hard for me.
26 Mar 2013, 11:05 am
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Since like the other day I've been watching lesbian Anime and my mom doesn't even know about it. I'm hiding what I'm doing behind her back. I feel so guilty for some reason or should I really? If she knew though she'd be really mad and like earlier when I came into the living room she was watching something and she's like "Don't worry. Its nothing gay." because she knows that I didn't normally like to watch anything gay. So it wasn't anything gay, because she doesn't watch gay stuff. I have told her that I still don't like to watch anything gay, but that was a couple of weeks ago. Now I've changed and started watching lesbian Anime for the first time the other day. If she only knew...She probably suspects that maybe I'm gonna try to be straight. Though now every time I go over to my aunt and my cousin's house she's like "Don't let her kiss you." and "Don't go gay with her." You know cause like I said my cousin is a lesbian? and I'm like "I'm not. I would never do anything with her" Anyway that would be incest, of course I wouldn't kiss my own cousin. That's just sick. I'm not even going to let my cousin know that I'm kind of interested in the same sex. If her and her mother only knew. They'd be like "Oh she's not the good girl anymore like she used to be." Its like really going to ruin my reputation sense I was always the good one. My mom keeps reminding me of that too which makes me feel really horrible, but it would really ruin things for me if they found out. I mean because my mom is always bragging to everyone how great I am, telling them how much better I am then I am then my cousin, telling my aunt and my cousin how wrong it is to be a lesbian and now this has to ruin it. I feel really bad.
As I said earlier, on your thread in the LGBT section of the forum, your mother is a control freak. Honestly, if she wants to control what you choose to watch, I think that's going way too far on this whole thing.
And based on your post, your mother doesn't sound like she is a good relative period. I mean really, calling your aunt and your cousin out for your cousin's sexuality is just plain wrong. And bragging about you because you are "better" than them is even worse. Simply because someone is homosexual or bisexual or anything other than straight does not make them better or worse than a straight person. You are still a "good girl".
Now as for the fact your mother thinks you might commit incest with your cousin, it sounds like your mother might be at least have schizophrenic tendencies. Schizophrenia doesn't automatically equal hearing voices - schizophrenia is irrational reasoning. For example, if someone thinks that their neighbor is some FBI agent because their neighbor said, "Hi," then that's schizophrenic reasoning. I am surprised that your mother would even think of such a thing.
And I'm going to assume that your aunt and your cousin aren't as committed to Christianity as your mother. So why is your mother such a strict Christian? Was she raised in a family of strict Christians? Or did something happen to her that made her turn to religion?
She pretty much controls every part of my life, to her I'm still like her little girl, but I'd like to start making decisions of my own like this especially. I haven't told her what I was watching. Its not like I'm watching porn. It really wasn't bad at all. Its just a cute lesbian Anime which I know she'd be totally against.
My aunt was already getting pretty snappy with my mom about it the other day when my mom was talking to her about it, because my mom was talking about how its not nice for my cousin to be a lesbian. My aunt is a pretty tough person and my mom got scared of her. When my mom truly finds out my decisions. I feel like that she's not going to think of me as such of a great daughter anymore like she used to. I feel like I've failed her and I tried so much to be like my mom all of my life, but I just don't seem to be turning out that way. I feel horrible and always think to myself that why couldn't I be more like her and now the rest of the family like my other aunts may look down on me sense my cousin was always the one doing the bad things.
Well my cousin has Schizophrenia and I just don't know what's wrong with my mom, but she just doesn't think all right at times about things like this to think I would do something like that with my cousin. I in no way feel attracted to her anyway.
My aunt and my cousin are Christian's too, but my cousin just doesn't bother to follow a lot of the Bible rules like my mom and I do. My aunt was pretty disgusted with my cousin being the way she is too. She told her that it was a sin but, she still accepted her for it anyway. My mom and my aunt were both raised in the same family. They are sisters and were both raised in a Christian family. My aunt is just a little bit more open minded to things then my mom is I believe.
Okay, if you want to become more independent, perhaps you should talk to your mom about it. Don't bring up your sexuality in the conversation - just talk to her about the fact you want to be responsible for yourself. Then you two can work at it from there.
I can understand you wanting to be more like your mother - she appears to be your role model. It also sounds like she was the only one who parented you - you haven't mentioned your father at all. However, there is no way you are going to be exactly like your mom - you two are different people. And at some point, you both need to realize that.
And thank you for answering my other questions.
Once I tell her that I want to be independent. Right away she's going to guess its because I like girls. She knows me like a book. I mean its not normal for me to just come out and say that I wanna be independent. So she's gonna know that somethings definitely up.
I think my mom is one of the best people I know and I have always wanted to be just like her. Well I don't know now sense she's being so harsh and condemning of same sex relationships. She's raised me and I've been with her my whole life. My parent's were divorced since a couple of years ago and he just passed away on New Years Even last year anyway, which has been very hard for me.
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26 Mar 2013, 9:58 pm
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Once I tell her that I want to be independent. Right away she's going to guess its because I like girls. She knows me like a book. I mean its not normal for me to just come out and say that I wanna be independent. So she's gonna know that somethings definitely up.
I think my mom is one of the best people I know and I have always wanted to be just like her. Well I don't know now sense she's being so harsh and condemning of same sex relationships. She's raised me and I've been with her my whole life. My parent's were divorced since a couple of years ago and he just passed away on New Years Even last year anyway, which has been very hard for me.
I think my mom is one of the best people I know and I have always wanted to be just like her. Well I don't know now sense she's being so harsh and condemning of same sex relationships. She's raised me and I've been with her my whole life. My parent's were divorced since a couple of years ago and he just passed away on New Years Even last year anyway, which has been very hard for me.
I'm sorry to hear about your father.
And as for everything else ... I'm honestly out of ideas. I don't know what to do. You could try to tell her your opinions about your sexuality, but I have a feeling that she would flip out if you did that. You could try talking to your aunt and cousin - they might be able to help you somehow. Beyond that, I don't know.
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ShyChristianGirl
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ShyChristianGirl
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28 Mar 2013, 6:09 am
So I finally got in contact with my cousin. We talked on the phone for a while about it and then she told her mom (My aunt) So they were both okay about it, just really surprised and then I had my aunt tell my mom about it when they were out together. My mom still came home and lectured me about it after she got home though and was very judgmental. I mean yeah she was pretty upset just like I explained to everyone here, trying to change me and telling me its wrong. Thank God she's not going to kick me out though. I went up to their house for a while to give her time to cool off. Now she's calmed down and she tries to act all happy and like it never happened. She said she still loves me. I hope I wasn't rude for telling her that she can't stop me and that I can do whatever I want, but I felt the need to get firm with her.
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28 Mar 2013, 7:48 am
Well done - you had to do this sooner or later and now it's in the open. Your cousin and aunt will be glad you told them, and although your mom may not agree with it as it's in conflict with her religious ideas, she still accepts you. Maybe she just thinks its a "passing phase" but only time will tell.
There are many gay&lesbian people on WP, including myself, who will support you when needed. I also had an incredible battle with a mother who, though very good to me, is a strict Baptist that can never reconcile gayness with their beliefs. I would say about 95% of Baptists think that way.
As long as you were firm but also respectful you weren't rude. The truth can hurt sometimes, but necessary.
All the best.
28 Mar 2013, 8:58 pm
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
So I finally got in contact with my cousin. We talked on the phone for a while about it and then she told her mom (My aunt) So they were both okay about it, just really surprised and then I had my aunt tell my mom about it when they were out together. My mom still came home and lectured me about it after she got home though and was very judgmental. I mean yeah she was pretty upset just like I explained to everyone here, trying to change me and telling me its wrong. Thank God she's not going to kick me out though. I went up to their house for a while to give her time to cool off. Now she's calmed down and she tries to act all happy and like it never happened. She said she still loves me. I hope I wasn't rude for telling her that she can't stop me and that I can do whatever I want, but I felt the need to get firm with her.
No, you weren't being rude. You did the right thing. Now we'll just have to wait and see what happens next.
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29 Mar 2013, 3:15 am
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
01 Apr 2013, 3:16 am
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!
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01 Apr 2013, 5:19 am
AspieOtaku wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!I know you're not but some guys see that as an excuse to be a sexist jerk because they think since you like women, you must see them as objects, too.
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01 Apr 2013, 6:02 am
puddingmouse wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!I know you're not but some guys see that as an excuse to be a sexist jerk because they think since you like women, you must see them as objects, too.
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01 Apr 2013, 6:04 am
AspieOtaku wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!I know you're not but some guys see that as an excuse to be a sexist jerk because they think since you like women, you must see them as objects, too.
I talk like a guy sometimes, but as soon as someone lays the whole 'women are all whores' trip on me, I get pissed off.
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01 Apr 2013, 6:17 am
puddingmouse wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!I know you're not but some guys see that as an excuse to be a sexist jerk because they think since you like women, you must see them as objects, too.
I talk like a guy sometimes, but as soon as someone lays the whole 'women are all whores' trip on me, I get pissed off.
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01 Apr 2013, 11:57 am
AspieOtaku wrote:
ShyChristianGirl wrote:
Well as of now she sort of still mentions it on and off, but she hasn't gotten really mad at me anymore or judged me like she did at first. I mean she still asks me that am I getting in contact with girls, but she isn't mean about it. I really do not think that this is a passing phase though. I'm bisexual now, but I feel like that I could even go lesbian later on in the future because I keep realizing more and more that I like women a lot better in just everything about them.
Nothing wrong with liking both and nothing wrong with going lesbian either! Bi and lesbian women are cool because I can talk guy talk in front most of them without offending them!I'm not a pervert though. So I wouldn't wanna talk dirty.
