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08 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

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I have no problem with the cops raiding dog fighting rings.

I hate dog fighters with a passion.

I think we both can agree on that point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

You should dog fighting and work to help the dog fighter see the Way, the Truth and the Light.

ruveyn

I'd like to help a dog fighter's brains see the light of day, if you know what I mean.

Again, we are in agreement.

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08 Jul 2013, 12:44 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Raptor wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Raptor wrote:

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I have no problem with the cops raiding dog fighting rings.

I hate dog fighters with a passion.

I think we both can agree on that point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

You should dog fighting and work to help the dog fighter see the Way, the Truth and the Light.

ruveyn

I'd like to help a dog fighter's brains see the light of day, if you know what I mean.

Again, we are in agreement.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

That's scary.....

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08 Jul 2013, 1:17 pm

Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Raptor wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Raptor wrote:

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I have no problem with the cops raiding dog fighting rings.

I hate dog fighters with a passion.

I think we both can agree on that point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

You should dog fighting and work to help the dog fighter see the Way, the Truth and the Light.

ruveyn

I'd like to help a dog fighter's brains see the light of day, if you know what I mean.

Again, we are in agreement.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

That's scary.....

Sign of the Apocalypse, man!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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08 Jul 2013, 4:26 pm

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Conspiracy nuts are going to love you for that! :lol:

As was intended, Bill.

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08 Jul 2013, 4:28 pm

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It really amazes me how gullible the sheeple are. Obama a socialist? The man that bailed out (with our * money! ) the international corporations, Wall Street and the banks.
* Those that make money thru work and creativity, not gambling.

Of course, Pres. Obama is a Keynesian capitalist. However, to some people on the far right, Keynesian capitalism is identical to communism and socialism. lol.

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08 Jul 2013, 4:46 pm

So a one world government based on capitalism?

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08 Jul 2013, 5:38 pm

/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

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08 Jul 2013, 6:51 pm

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

I don't have a dog in this fight (one world government), but any student of history can tell you how the push for national identity (tribalism) has been the cause of plenty of bloodshed.
And national identities can and do change all the time. Until the 20th century, there were no Israelis or Palestinians. The Franks of late antiquity are now the citizens of at least four different countries - Germany, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands - and the Frankish descendants in these countries until recently couldn't stand each other. If nations didn't change and disappear over time, there would still be Bell Beaker Folk, and Battle Axe People.

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08 Jul 2013, 8:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

As long as this planet is inhabited by humans there will be bloodshed. Even if there are only two people left on earth the potential for conflict and bloodshed will be ever present. The only hope of avoiding war is to be prepared for it and even there is not a guaranty.

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08 Jul 2013, 10:16 pm

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

Sure, especially when you've got the "us against them" mentality, that comes from tribalism and nationalism.

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08 Jul 2013, 10:27 pm

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

Factually, that is incorrect. Most people on the left and the right do not want a world government. However, supporters of world government can be found on both the left and the right. Of course, my vision of world socialism would not be accepted by right-wingers (or by liberals for that matter).

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08 Jul 2013, 10:30 pm

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So a one world government based on capitalism?

I sure as heck hope not. But since when is President Obama supporting a world government? Must be in some parallel dimension,

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08 Jul 2013, 10:37 pm

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So a one world government based on capitalism?

I sure as heck hope not. But since when is President Obama supporting a world government? Must be in some parallel dimension,

I think that's happening on the Bizarro planet, where everyone is either a freakish Superman or Lois Lane, garbage men drop trash on the street, police men commit crimes, etc.

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08 Jul 2013, 10:40 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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Kraichgauer wrote:

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

Sure, especially when you've got the "us against them" mentality, that comes from tribalism and nationalism.

Put 25 people, give or take, together long enough and they will form groups and that is the base of tribalism and/or nationalism. As much as the left would like to think otherwise, human nature is what it is.

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/\ I think it's the left that wants a one world government, hence their love of the UN.
Conservatives are for independence and national identity.

It’s correct enough in my observations.

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08 Jul 2013, 10:43 pm

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I think that's happening on the Bizarro planet, where everyone is either a freakish Superman or Lois Lane, garbage men drop trash on the street, police men commit crimes, etc.

It is on the planet called: Right Wing Echo Chamber (located in a distant galaxy).

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08 Jul 2013, 10:44 pm

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It’s correct enough in my observations.

Observations of what sources?

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