Page 7 of 9 [ 143 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next

Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 49,751
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Dec 2015, 2:41 am

^^^

As I recall, Bobby Kennedy's senatorial career began with an election in New York, despite not having been from there, and as far as I know, not having held previous elected office.
And Arnold Schwarzenegger has duel citizenship with Austria, but nobody raised a stink about that.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

24 Dec 2015, 3:16 am

MDD123 wrote:
Yea Inventor, you really went off the deep end this time.

What, Bernie's not a Jew?


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


Inventor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,014
Location: New Orleans

24 Dec 2015, 3:25 am

MDD123 wrote:
Yea Inventor, you really went off the deep end this time.



If you want to know who rules you, look at who you are not allowed to question.

Bloody Hillary married her only child into the Tribe. She did not become Senator from New York by her own merit.

If she wants to run for President, every breath she took is subject to examination.

She is owned just as much as Congress who takes a million a year each from Wall Street.

For all of the money, all the media control, Trump is winning.

The Left calls names, but when their candidate is exposed for what she is, who she works for, it is unfair?

Hillary has left a string of mysterious deaths in her rise to power. She was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying, she will do, say and use anyone to get her way. It also seems the Saudi's own a piece of her. She forwarded some Top Secret State Department Documents from her private server to them.

Hillary is just evil, and unfit to serve in any public office.

Trump at least speaks of America, of fixing what has been neglected.

Can he do it all? I do not know, but he can do some of it, and this country needs it.

He does not accept money, those who buy influence are upset.

Check out the money that flowed into the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary has to run on her record.

Trump will appoint the best minds in business to run the Government, just as we did for WWI and WWII.

We are a great people, we can have stability and full employment.

Obama doubled the National Debt, now larger than GDP. That can not continue.

The next election is the most important ever, we are about to crash over the economic cliff.

"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater



frenchmanflats
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 5 Oct 2015
Age: 51
Posts: 1,052
Location: California

24 Dec 2015, 4:59 am

I really do not like him. He needs a better team advising him



Campin_Cat
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2014
Age: 64
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,953
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.

24 Dec 2015, 9:02 am

Inventor wrote:
Hillary is just evil, and unfit to serve in any public office.

Trump at least speaks of America, of fixing what has been neglected.

Can he do it all? I do not know, but he can do some of it, and this country needs it.

He does not accept money, those who buy influence are upset.

Check out the money that flowed into the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary has to run on her record.

Trump will appoint the best minds in business to run the Government, just as we did for WWI and WWII.

We are a great people, we can have stability and full employment.

Obama doubled the National Debt, now larger than GDP. That can not continue.

The next election is the most important ever, we are about to crash over the economic cliff.


Yeah, I especially agree, with these paragraphs!

As I've said before, on this site, I think Hillary is a SNAKE----I think she smiles in one's face, and bites them in the butt.

I think Trump----besides the fact that he just seems to love to hear himself talk----LOVES to yank people's chains (which ends-in a firestorm on social media, every time). He's not an idiot----he knows what he's doin'----NOTHING he says, deters his supporters, and he knows it; if it DID lessen his supporters, he might change his tactic----but, why fix, what ain't "broke"! IMO, people find him refreshing----if, for no other reason, than because they're so SICK of PCness, and wish they could say the things that HE does!

BTW, he did NOT say "SHE'S disgusting", he said "THAT'S disgusting"----BIG difference----and, while it's NOT disgusting that anyone has to go to the bathroom, I knew what he meant, and thought it was FUNNY----CHILDISH, that he said it, but funny!!





_________________
White female; age 59; diagnosed Aspie.
I use caps for emphasis----I'm NOT angry or shouting. I use caps like others use italics, underline, or bold.
"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)


Inventor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,014
Location: New Orleans

24 Dec 2015, 1:38 pm

Trump does bring out the free press.

The Republicans speak of Trump, the Democrats speak of Trump, Media speaks of nothing else.

Hillary refuses to speak about her past, Mena Airport, the bodies found. Whitewater.

Trump does like to speak about himself, so we are all in agreement.

The children of people who wanted to be in with the cool kids now reply to our Immigration Policy problems by calling it Racist.

Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Bully, Ass, lose all meaning when applied to everything and anything said that differs from their chants and mantras.

The LLLM, (Liberal Leftist Lives Mater) Can only protest their own shallow world view, and object to bullies who make them think. That is Oppression!

Their level of discourse is Middle School name calling. The cool kids called your parents Dwebs. Live with it.

In less than a year America will elect the President that stand for all of us, and who will affect the entire world.

Questions about what kind of a country we are, what our goals are, do affect the planet.

We do have a voice in world economic affairs.

At home we lack jobs, a secure border, have an out of control National Debt, and 45 million war babies starting to collect Social Security. Our roads and bridges are falling apart, our education system is 38th in the world, between Bulgaria and Romania. Our growth industry has been prisons, where we keep more people than the rest of the world combined.

The Secret Police are spying on everybody, and our Public Police have become a Military force. Citizens are now treated like hostile combatants, and government owned slaves.

Our election choice is between a compulsive liar with blood stained hands, who was active in causing this mess, "She was practiced at the art of deception, I could tell by her blood stained hands.", or an outsider who has a history of solving large problems, and creating something good in their place.

This is our most important election, we will go down in flames to a future of poverty and debt servitude, or rise to our feet and be the America that so many in the world have admired.



LoveNotHate
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,195
Location: USA

24 Dec 2015, 2:27 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
The left opposes Trump because of his racial and religious bigotry. Plus, the people he appeals to hardly can be described as socialists. That, and his tax plan is still going to favor the super rich.


1. The people he appeals to are working class people, labor unions, the lower educated.

"only 8 percent of college-degree-holding Republican voters plan to vote for Trump"
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/05/her ... ald-trump/

_______________________________________

2. His ideas are ripped right from the Socialist platform.

Here is Trump's ideas ....

http://socialistparty-usa.net/platform.html

"We demand the immediate withdrawal of the United States from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), and oppose the creation of a widened Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)".

• "We call for a steeply graduated income tax and a steeply graduated estate tax, and a maximum income of no more than ten times the minimum. We oppose regressive taxes such as payroll tax, sales tax, and property taxes".

• "We oppose "guest worker" programs".

• "We give critical support to the demand for the immediate abolition of all private health insurance companies through the creation of a single-payer health system".

_______________________________________

3. His supposed "racial bigotry" of wanting to secure the border is likely warmly received by 32% of Democrats who view illegal immigrants as "a burden, taking jobs and health care" per Pew Research survey.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... migration/

_______________________________________

4. His supposed "religious bigotry" of wanting a temporary ban on Muslims.
18% Democrats support the idea.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... muslim-ban

So, he has broad appeal.



MDD123
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2009
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,007

24 Dec 2015, 2:57 pm

There is no proof that Bernie holds dual citizenship, the notion that he does is just a fear-mongering rumor.


_________________
I'm a math evangelist, I believe in theorems and ignore the proofs.


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 49,751
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Dec 2015, 3:45 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The left opposes Trump because of his racial and religious bigotry. Plus, the people he appeals to hardly can be described as socialists. That, and his tax plan is still going to favor the super rich.


1. The people he appeals to are working class people, labor unions, the lower educated.

"only 8 percent of college-degree-holding Republican voters plan to vote for Trump"
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/05/her ... ald-trump/

_______________________________________

2. His ideas are ripped right from the Socialist platform.

Here is Trump's ideas ....

http://socialistparty-usa.net/platform.html

"We demand the immediate withdrawal of the United States from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), and oppose the creation of a widened Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)".

• "We call for a steeply graduated income tax and a steeply graduated estate tax, and a maximum income of no more than ten times the minimum. We oppose regressive taxes such as payroll tax, sales tax, and property taxes".

• "We oppose "guest worker" programs".

• "We give critical support to the demand for the immediate abolition of all private health insurance companies through the creation of a single-payer health system".

_______________________________________

3. His supposed "racial bigotry" of wanting to secure the border is likely warmly received by 32% of Democrats who view illegal immigrants as "a burden, taking jobs and health care" per Pew Research survey.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... migration/

_______________________________________

4. His supposed "religious bigotry" of wanting a temporary ban on Muslims.
18% Democrats support the idea.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... muslim-ban

So, he has broad appeal.


Trump is getting the so called "Reagan Democrat" vote. Trust me, that hardly encompasses all blue collar Democrats. Plus, a great many of his supporters never voted Democrat in their lives, but cast their votes against their own interests when the right wheels out some bogeyman like gay marriage, or as Trump is doing with illegals and Muslims.
As for Trump's more left leaning planks in his campaign - - well, a stopped clock is right twice a day.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 49,751
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Dec 2015, 3:47 pm

Inventor wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
Yea Inventor, you really went off the deep end this time.



If you want to know who rules you, look at who you are not allowed to question.

Bloody Hillary married her only child into the Tribe. She did not become Senator from New York by her own merit.

If she wants to run for President, every breath she took is subject to examination.

She is owned just as much as Congress who takes a million a year each from Wall Street.

For all of the money, all the media control, Trump is winning.

The Left calls names, but when their candidate is exposed for what she is, who she works for, it is unfair?

Hillary has left a string of mysterious deaths in her rise to power. She was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying, she will do, say and use anyone to get her way. It also seems the Saudi's own a piece of her. She forwarded some Top Secret State Department Documents from her private server to them.

Hillary is just evil, and unfit to serve in any public office.

Trump at least speaks of America, of fixing what has been neglected.

Can he do it all? I do not know, but he can do some of it, and this country needs it.

He does not accept money, those who buy influence are upset.

Check out the money that flowed into the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary has to run on her record.

Trump will appoint the best minds in business to run the Government, just as we did for WWI and WWII.

We are a great people, we can have stability and full employment.

Obama doubled the National Debt, now larger than GDP. That can not continue.

The next election is the most important ever, we are about to crash over the economic cliff.

"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater


Yeah, yeah, and Hillary's a secret lesbian, too. I've heard it all before. :roll:


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Inventor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,014
Location: New Orleans

25 Dec 2015, 5:24 am

I never heard that was a secret.

Not for affection or attraction, not even like her husband for the sex, but just for the rush of power.

Hillary has to prove her dominance, she likes women, on their knees.

Stories of life in Arkansas are on the web.

People around Hillary have a strange habit, killing themselves by putting a bullet in the back of their heads.

Google Clinton deaths, suicide has reached epidemic levels around them. Accidental death has taken a large percentage of people they knew.

Bill flew to the island home of a major pedophile where he kept his child collection, several times. There are more stories from Arkansas. A half dozen women have said he is the Bill Cosby of Arkansas. It was not, do you want to screw the Governor, it was, you have to, or you will have problems.

They were the power couple, they wanted it all.

You did bring up the sex life of the Clintons.



Campin_Cat
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2014
Age: 64
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,953
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.

25 Dec 2015, 7:06 am

^^ OMG!! I've heard alot of rumors over the years, but I never took the time to check-it-out. I did what you suggested, and googled----one site has a body count, of 90. I mean, I'm sorry, it's just too coincidental that that many people associated with anybody would have committed suicide, or had "accidents". I've always said that I would give, almost anything, to see one of them in handcuffs----but, little did I know all that that meant.










_________________
White female; age 59; diagnosed Aspie.
I use caps for emphasis----I'm NOT angry or shouting. I use caps like others use italics, underline, or bold.
"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)


Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Arizona

25 Dec 2015, 10:24 am

Hillary will not be president, Trump will not let her and her husband's crimes go unmentioned. He's not going to be bullied into any fake garbage narrative about some "war on women", instead we're going talk about Bill's predatory behavior and Hillary's personal "war on women" that she waged against every woman her husband ever violated. She's now saying that all women should be believed when they come forward with sexual assaults, an interesting position for her to take up considering even her public actions and words. Why would a strong womyn like Hillary stay with a man like Bill? I suppose we can only speculate about the real nature of their relationship which by all appearances seems to be an open one where Hillary excuses Bill's misdeeds because she's a nobody without him. Bill Clinton is the rock star, Hillary is just his harpy "wife" who has shown incompetent at every turn as a politician. She's a dishonest, corrupt, and incompetent.

Nobody who has ever ran for president has as many skeletons in their closet than Hillary, I think Bill was fairly unprecedented and now you can add to the proceeding 24 years after that.

ISIS and al-Qaeda don't use Trump in their recruiting videos but they do use "The Fornicator" Bill in their videos, these people believe it or not have some people specific grievances and none of them include our immigration or visa policy. They care far more about being bombed, sanctioned, invaded, etc than whatever we do. They don't hate us because of our "freedom", these people play us like a banjo into doing exactly what they want and what they want is a clash of civilizations. ISIS wants a worldwide caliphate, it's motto is convert or die so to not want to take people that share that same belief is totally reasonable I think.



androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

25 Dec 2015, 10:29 am

Jacoby wrote:
... we're going talk about Bill's predatory behavior and Hillary's personal "war on women" that she waged against every woman her husband ever violated.

Are you talking about Monica Lewinsky, because that was consensual. The only thing that hurt Lewinsky was public outrage and vilification.



kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

25 Dec 2015, 10:51 am

Clinton was sort of a sleazy person at times.

Alas, many Presidents were.



Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Arizona

25 Dec 2015, 10:57 am

androbot01 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
... we're going talk about Bill's predatory behavior and Hillary's personal "war on women" that she waged against every woman her husband ever violated.

Are you talking about Monica Lewinsky, because that was consensual. The only thing that hurt Lewinsky was public outrage and vilification.


no, I'm talking about the dozens others

Bill Clinton = Bill Cosby on steroids