How should I react to America's grim future?

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cathylynn
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09 Mar 2016, 10:34 pm

when we elect bernie, we must also elect a congress that will work with him, like we did for obama in '08. 88% of congress is up for reelection and they are unpopular. i see opportunity here. even if bernie doesn't get a cooperative congress, he can accomplish some things by executive order.



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10 Mar 2016, 1:12 am

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when we elect bernie, we must also elect a congress that will work with him, like we did for obama in '08. 88% of congress is up for reelection and they are unpopular. i see opportunity here. even if bernie doesn't get a cooperative congress, he can accomplish some things by executive order.


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10 Mar 2016, 1:53 am

Oh ,i have plenty of places to hide
Sweetleaf :D
Honestly, i doubt america will become
A third world banana republic overnight.
Unless ww3 breaks out or another 9-11
Style terrorist attack happens. Some
Believe we are already in a covert ww3in syria with america,nato, and saudi arabia
On one side and russia, iran, and syria
On th other side.i wouldnt move to another country since we are at the beginning of a global recession.



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10 Mar 2016, 2:07 am

mebbe that hijacked Malaysian airlines 777 will fly low over the ocean and drop a big one over some key east coast city? then America as we know it will be done.



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11 Mar 2016, 7:30 pm

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...only invest in companies that hold Government Pensions, and give a billion a year to Congress, Goldman Sachs.


Thanks for your thoughts... Do you mean that Goldman Sachs is a good bet? I would think so... and probably Berkshire Hathaway - nobody can match Buffett's track record...


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My game plan is to vanish into a National Forest for a few months...
My plan is finding bottom, back country camping is free, I can live cheap...


Can you do that legally? I'd be afraid of "trespassing" on government or private property, and getting shot, or robbed, etc...


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Bank Depositors have been redefined as Investors.


Tell me more about this - does it mean that "deposit insurance" doesn't apply anymore, or what?

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The best investment I see is one Troy ounce, 31.1 grams, 99.9% Silver rounds. They sell for very little above the Spot Silver price, now $15.50, $40 not long ago. Silver dropped on a fake recovery, another Recession should double it. For small investors who have ebay for a broker, it has the lowest cost and least records. Half dollars are three for a contained Ounce, and about $7-$8. Dollars sell for twice silver value. Coin can be harder to sell, rounds sell for spot price.


But I noticed that from 1985 until 2005 silver stayed in the range of $5/oz. or so... but you think $15 is the new low? Do you recommend "American Silver Eagle" coins or lesser known "rounds" (coins produced by private mints?), or pre-'65 half dollars? Do you mean that half dollars sell for only $7-8 per oz (3 coins for $7-8)? Why would the silver sell for half the price of spot? Very interesting if true...

Thanks again...



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15 Mar 2016, 4:17 am

I do not trust any stocks.

National Forest, and BLM lands in the west are open for camping. Only the developed campsites charge. Backcountry is free.

Hiking the Appalachian Trail, or the Continental Divide Trail, is a scenic way to vanish.

Half dollars are 1/3 Oz., now $5.16. All .999 silver sells about the same.

Deposit insurance still exists, they changed the status of larger deposits. Bank stocks share the winnings, depositors share the losses.

No more bailouts, it is Plan B to recapitalize banks. When you deposit money in a bank you are giving them the right to loan it out. In return you are paid interest. You are an investor.

Gold hit bottom in Dec. Silver two weeks later, Silver dipped below $14. Now $15.51, I see a good long upside.

Silver follows Gold. Gold dropped by a third, Silver dropped by two thirds. It looks the same on the upside, Gold goes up by a third, Silver triples. Stocks crash, Gold and Silver go up. The dollar crashes, Gold and Silver go up.

This is not a science, but if over time the aliens do not invade and kill us all, silver will be worth more, come what may, it will not become worthless.



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15 Mar 2016, 5:01 am

Last time I checked, my digestive system was unable to handle pure metals. They're only worth something as long as there is agriculture to sustain surpluses, and thence an exchange economy. Their value is only whatever people agree to exchange for them, no different than currency. If circumstances were desperate enough that a person only had few days food, would they really rather starve to death than have one last look at shiny things?


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15 Mar 2016, 3:23 pm

I wish it was 1970 again, there seemed to be so much more hope then.



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15 Mar 2016, 6:05 pm

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I wish it was 1970 again, there seemed to be so much more hope then.


Though back then, there was no recognition of what Asperger's was, or even that autism was a spectrum rather than just a state of being severely disabled. Back then, we were either pigeonholed into categories like hyperactivity (as I was roughly around that period of time), or worse, labeled as mentally ret*d, as they didn't know how else to describe us.


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15 Mar 2016, 6:24 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
I wish it was 1970 again, there seemed to be so much more hope then.


Though back then, there was no recognition of what Asperger's was, or even that autism was a spectrum rather than just a state of being severely disabled. Back then, we were either pigeonholed into categories like hyperactivity (as I was roughly around that period of time), or worse, labeled as mentally ret*d, as they didn't know how else to describe us.

school shrinks variously described me as autistic, schizotypal and schizoid.



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15 Mar 2016, 6:31 pm

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I wish it was 1970 again, there seemed to be so much more hope then.


Though back then, there was no recognition of what Asperger's was, or even that autism was a spectrum rather than just a state of being severely disabled. Back then, we were either pigeonholed into categories like hyperactivity (as I was roughly around that period of time), or worse, labeled as mentally ret*d, as they didn't know how else to describe us.

school shrinks variously described me as autistic, schizotypal and schizoid.


They were at least on the right track with you it seems, in that they recognized you as autistic, but in my case, they totally missed the mark.


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15 Mar 2016, 7:03 pm

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They were at least on the right track with you it seems, in that they recognized you as autistic, but in my case, they totally missed the mark.


I didn't take the autistic seriously until I was in the army and an army [psychiatric] social worker told me I was.



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15 Mar 2016, 11:14 pm

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They were at least on the right track with you it seems, in that they recognized you as autistic, but in my case, they totally missed the mark.


I didn't take the autistic seriously until I was in the army and an army [psychiatric] social worker told me I was.


I didn't get an official diagnosis till I was in my forties. And that was only after my daughter was diagnosed, when I stated reading up on high functioning autism and recognized much of myself, especially when younger. So I went to see the same psychologist who had seen my daughter, and he confirmed what I had realized.


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15 Mar 2016, 11:29 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
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They were at least on the right track with you it seems, in that they recognized you as autistic, but in my case, they totally missed the mark.


I didn't take the autistic seriously until I was in the army and an army [psychiatric] social worker told me I was.


I didn't get an official diagnosis till I was in my forties. And that was only after my daughter was diagnosed, when I stated reading up on high functioning autism and recognized much of myself, especially when younger. So I went to see the same psychologist who had seen my daughter, and he confirmed what I had realized.

it is good that you are all on the same sheet of paper as it were, you seem to have a comfortable similarity going for you all. the army thing was not a formal DX, just an expression of a medically informed opinion, also suggested I not talk about it too much while I was in, along with my other thing. didn't get a formal DX until 2003 or so, also in my early 40s.



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16 Mar 2016, 1:30 am

auntblabby wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
They were at least on the right track with you it seems, in that they recognized you as autistic, but in my case, they totally missed the mark.


I didn't take the autistic seriously until I was in the army and an army [psychiatric] social worker told me I was.


I didn't get an official diagnosis till I was in my forties. And that was only after my daughter was diagnosed, when I stated reading up on high functioning autism and recognized much of myself, especially when younger. So I went to see the same psychologist who had seen my daughter, and he confirmed what I had realized.

it is good that you are all on the same sheet of paper as it were, you seem to have a comfortable similarity going for you all. the army thing was not a formal DX, just an expression of a medically informed opinion, also suggested I not talk about it too much while I was in, along with my other thing. didn't get a formal DX until 2003 or so, also in my early 40s.


I'm pretty certain that autism is a matter of genetics. My daughter inherited it from me, while I believe both my parents were on the spectrum.


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16 Mar 2016, 1:32 am

won't have any offspring in this lifetime, but I believe the genes for autism are on both sides of my family tree as well.