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10 Feb 2019, 6:00 pm

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Pointing to Hillary doesn't work for me. It's too obvious that all she does is feed people what they want to hear to get votes. What does she stand for? What ever is popular at that particular time. If I could actually trust media and they didn't constantly lie perhaps more of the country would put more faith in what they say. I'm not a resourceful guy, but I can easily find people all over youtube that are. None of them seem to make such claims and speak about things that he is actually doing that are benefiting the country. Then to add, it is a fact that the economy is on the upswing and unemployment rates are dropping. That is my way of seeing through the fog of lies and conspiracies being broadcast ever so abundantly.

There are educated normal people who still back Trump, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone mention that Trump, the guy who has documentaries about his success in the business world, actually blew all his money that was inherited? and is borrowing money from other countries to make it appear he is successful. There is a documentary of him on netflix, I'll go and watch it now and see if it mentions that he inherited all his money and made poor business investments and lost it all. I'm already 90% certain that's not the case, but I'll go watch it. If it claims otherwise I'm not going to go for a story such as he paid others to make a documentary about him to make him appear to be successful.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not going to fall for conspiracy theories, many people exist that back trump and are very politically involved and I'm not referring to 'politicians' but your every day average joe.


To be sure, Trump didn't lose everything due to his poor business skills, as he still had plenty of assets, but chances are he's not as rich as he claims he is despite those loans from dangerous foreign sources.
The attack on the mainstream media is born out of their criticism of Trump, something which he has never liked. In that way, he has always admired dictatorial strongmen like Putin and Erdogan who have had a long history of suppressing the press, often through violence as well as accusations of lying. Because the press is recognized in the US constitution as essential for a free society and a free government, this attack on the media is especially worrisome when Trump makes attacks on them simply for being critical.


He attacks them because they lie endlessly, more than him. It isn't a free press. If someone tells the truth about war they get fired. They are the mouthpiece of the war industry. They have launched sick attacks on Tulsi Gabbard already because she's anti war.


Whether the mainstream media lies about Trump is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, while the normally centrist CNN has since taken a definite Anti-Trump stance, I believe they are telling the truth. Again, Trump, because of his over sensitive, over sized ego, can't take criticism, which is why the brown nosing Fox has pretty much become his administration's version of Pravda. The fact remains, there has never been a President in love with all the press, but this is the first one to disregard and attack the media's essential role in free government and free society.


The media has never gone after a President like this before, and Trump can't help himself but fire back. He's a brash New Yorker. They aren't telling the truth and that's a matter of fact, they have run with endless fake stories.


As I recall, there was a constant barrage against Obama by Fox, and before him, Clinton. The difference was, neither of them lowered themselves to that level by "firing back."


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10 Feb 2019, 6:05 pm

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Clinton colluded with the FBI to create a fake document about Trump. She colluded with the DNC to steal the nomination from Sanders. Blaming Russia was the plan after that to distract people from the cheating and the content of her emails that were leaked by a Sanders supporter in the DNC, Seth Rich who was murdered. Liberals blamed Comey for Clinton losing and then he became their hero. They both need to be locked up.


The Seth Rich conspiracy theories are discredited.
What fake document? That Trump has a weird watersports fetish?
I was a Bernie Sanders supporter, and I absolutely agree that those chicken heads at the DNC did a real job on him for Clinton's benefit. Bernie would have been a far better candidate than than Clinton, but the fact remains Clinton was a far better candidate than Trump.


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10 Feb 2019, 6:22 pm

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Saying his crowds weren't diverse and they consisted of white supremacists is a lie, not an opinion. They all lie, both Left and Right media outlets.


I never said all Trump's supporters are white supremacists, but just the same, about every white supremacist threw their support behind him. To deny it isn't going to make it go away.
Sure, there were a few black and brown faces in the lily white Trump rallies, but they were few. I recall that one black guy who always seemed to creepily follow Trump around. Over and over, Trump loudly called out to his "African American." In fact, this man had been involved in a series of murders involving a religious cult he belonged to, and only slipped out of being convicted with his friends by the skin of his teeth. I think I'd rather forgo African American support than have that lunatic's endorsement! :pale:


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10 Feb 2019, 7:14 pm

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Saying his crowds weren't diverse and they consisted of white supremacists is a lie, not an opinion. They all lie, both Left and Right media outlets.


I never said all Trump's supporters are white supremacists, but just the same, about every white supremacist threw their support behind him. To deny it isn't going to make it go away.
Sure, there were a few black and brown faces in the lily white Trump rallies, but they were few. I recall that one black guy who always seemed to creepily follow Trump around. Over and over, Trump loudly called out to his "African American." In fact, this man had been involved in a series of murders involving a religious cult he belonged to, and only slipped out of being convicted with his friends by the skin of his teeth. I think I'd rather forgo African American support than have that lunatic's endorsement! :pale:


I didn't say you said Trumps crowds weren't diverse, I was telling you that is what left winged media(including CNN) was saying and that when they did so they flat out lied, it wasn't an opinion. Visit my thread 'Share Political Videos', Trump made another great move to help America, someone added it a day or so ago.



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10 Feb 2019, 7:24 pm

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here is one(it's not as funny as the one I saw before). There are others, she is an easy target because she lied a lot through the entire process.


this one is better, LOL, this corruption is killing me.

While it was reckless of Clinton to use a non-government server, I fail to see how it constitutes treason as there was no intent to aid an enemy. As a matter of fact, there have been members of the Trump administration who have done the same thing, including his daughter.
If you want to see real treason, look at how Trump's people had met with Russian agents to get help against Clinton. That, with the loans the Russians had floated him provided the leverage they needed to turn Trump into a user friendly asset. That is treason.

A general who did the same thing got charged



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10 Feb 2019, 7:37 pm

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here is one(it's not as funny as the one I saw before). There are others, she is an easy target because she lied a lot through the entire process.


this one is better, LOL, this corruption is killing me.

While it was reckless of Clinton to use a non-government server, I fail to see how it constitutes treason as there was no intent to aid an enemy. As a matter of fact, there have been members of the Trump administration who have done the same thing, including his daughter.
If you want to see real treason, look at how Trump's people had met with Russian agents to get help against Clinton. That, with the loans the Russians had floated him provided the leverage they needed to turn Trump into a user friendly asset. That is treason.

A general who did the same thing got charged


I assume that was military justice, not civilian.


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11 Feb 2019, 1:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Crimadella wrote:
Pointing to Hillary doesn't work for me. It's too obvious that all she does is feed people what they want to hear to get votes. What does she stand for? What ever is popular at that particular time. If I could actually trust media and they didn't constantly lie perhaps more of the country would put more faith in what they say. I'm not a resourceful guy, but I can easily find people all over youtube that are. None of them seem to make such claims and speak about things that he is actually doing that are benefiting the country. Then to add, it is a fact that the economy is on the upswing and unemployment rates are dropping. That is my way of seeing through the fog of lies and conspiracies being broadcast ever so abundantly.

There are educated normal people who still back Trump, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone mention that Trump, the guy who has documentaries about his success in the business world, actually blew all his money that was inherited? and is borrowing money from other countries to make it appear he is successful. There is a documentary of him on netflix, I'll go and watch it now and see if it mentions that he inherited all his money and made poor business investments and lost it all. I'm already 90% certain that's not the case, but I'll go watch it. If it claims otherwise I'm not going to go for a story such as he paid others to make a documentary about him to make him appear to be successful.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not going to fall for conspiracy theories, many people exist that back trump and are very politically involved and I'm not referring to 'politicians' but your every day average joe.


To be sure, Trump didn't lose everything due to his poor business skills, as he still had plenty of assets, but chances are he's not as rich as he claims he is despite those loans from dangerous foreign sources.
The attack on the mainstream media is born out of their criticism of Trump, something which he has never liked. In that way, he has always admired dictatorial strongmen like Putin and Erdogan who have had a long history of suppressing the press, often through violence as well as accusations of lying. Because the press is recognized in the US constitution as essential for a free society and a free government, this attack on the media is especially worrisome when Trump makes attacks on them simply for being critical.


He attacks them because they lie endlessly, more than him. It isn't a free press. If someone tells the truth about war they get fired. They are the mouthpiece of the war industry. They have launched sick attacks on Tulsi Gabbard already because she's anti war.


Whether the mainstream media lies about Trump is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, while the normally centrist CNN has since taken a definite Anti-Trump stance, I believe they are telling the truth. Again, Trump, because of his over sensitive, over sized ego, can't take criticism, which is why the brown nosing Fox has pretty much become his administration's version of Pravda. The fact remains, there has never been a President in love with all the press, but this is the first one to disregard and attack the media's essential role in free government and free society.


The media has never gone after a President like this before, and Trump can't help himself but fire back. He's a brash New Yorker. They aren't telling the truth and that's a matter of fact, they have run with endless fake stories.


As I recall, there was a constant barrage against Obama by Fox, and before him, Clinton. The difference was, neither of them lowered themselves to that level by "firing back."


Obama didn't need to fire back, the whole liberal establishment did it for him. Plus he's spineless. Clinton bombed Iraq to get them off his back. The press for the most part talked about him like it was the second coming.


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11 Feb 2019, 1:41 pm

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Clinton colluded with the FBI to create a fake document about Trump. She colluded with the DNC to steal the nomination from Sanders. Blaming Russia was the plan after that to distract people from the cheating and the content of her emails that were leaked by a Sanders supporter in the DNC, Seth Rich who was murdered. Liberals blamed Comey for Clinton losing and then he became their hero. They both need to be locked up.


The Seth Rich conspiracy theories are discredited.
What fake document? That Trump has a weird watersports fetish?
I was a Bernie Sanders supporter, and I absolutely agree that those chicken heads at the DNC did a real job on him for Clinton's benefit. Bernie would have been a far better candidate than than Clinton, but the fact remains Clinton was a far better candidate than Trump.


No they haven't. The establishment media isn't going to tell you the truth. The intelligence agencies aren't going to just own up to it. I know for a fact he was murdered for leaking the information as I know someone with a direct source.
The fake dossier created by a foreign agent, Christopher Steele.
No she was not, she is literally pure evil.


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11 Feb 2019, 1:45 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Crimadella wrote:
Pointing to Hillary doesn't work for me. It's too obvious that all she does is feed people what they want to hear to get votes. What does she stand for? What ever is popular at that particular time. If I could actually trust media and they didn't constantly lie perhaps more of the country would put more faith in what they say. I'm not a resourceful guy, but I can easily find people all over youtube that are. None of them seem to make such claims and speak about things that he is actually doing that are benefiting the country. Then to add, it is a fact that the economy is on the upswing and unemployment rates are dropping. That is my way of seeing through the fog of lies and conspiracies being broadcast ever so abundantly.

There are educated normal people who still back Trump, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone mention that Trump, the guy who has documentaries about his success in the business world, actually blew all his money that was inherited? and is borrowing money from other countries to make it appear he is successful. There is a documentary of him on netflix, I'll go and watch it now and see if it mentions that he inherited all his money and made poor business investments and lost it all. I'm already 90% certain that's not the case, but I'll go watch it. If it claims otherwise I'm not going to go for a story such as he paid others to make a documentary about him to make him appear to be successful.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not going to fall for conspiracy theories, many people exist that back trump and are very politically involved and I'm not referring to 'politicians' but your every day average joe.


To be sure, Trump didn't lose everything due to his poor business skills, as he still had plenty of assets, but chances are he's not as rich as he claims he is despite those loans from dangerous foreign sources.
The attack on the mainstream media is born out of their criticism of Trump, something which he has never liked. In that way, he has always admired dictatorial strongmen like Putin and Erdogan who have had a long history of suppressing the press, often through violence as well as accusations of lying. Because the press is recognized in the US constitution as essential for a free society and a free government, this attack on the media is especially worrisome when Trump makes attacks on them simply for being critical.


He attacks them because they lie endlessly, more than him. It isn't a free press. If someone tells the truth about war they get fired. They are the mouthpiece of the war industry. They have launched sick attacks on Tulsi Gabbard already because she's anti war.


Whether the mainstream media lies about Trump is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, while the normally centrist CNN has since taken a definite Anti-Trump stance, I believe they are telling the truth. Again, Trump, because of his over sensitive, over sized ego, can't take criticism, which is why the brown nosing Fox has pretty much become his administration's version of Pravda. The fact remains, there has never been a President in love with all the press, but this is the first one to disregard and attack the media's essential role in free government and free society.


The media has never gone after a President like this before, and Trump can't help himself but fire back. He's a brash New Yorker. They aren't telling the truth and that's a matter of fact, they have run with endless fake stories.


As I recall, there was a constant barrage against Obama by Fox, and before him, Clinton. The difference was, neither of them lowered themselves to that level by "firing back."


Obama didn't need to fire back, the whole liberal establishment did it for him. Plus he's spineless. Clinton bombed Iraq to get them off his back. The press for the most part talked about him like it was the second coming.


And what is your logic?


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11 Feb 2019, 1:55 pm

I just said it.


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11 Feb 2019, 3:46 pm

How dumb are major-media national journalists? This dumb:

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That's certainly true, as long as we assume "for the first time in history" means "for the first time in history since the last election two years ago." :lol:


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11 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Crimadella wrote:
Pointing to Hillary doesn't work for me. It's too obvious that all she does is feed people what they want to hear to get votes. What does she stand for? What ever is popular at that particular time. If I could actually trust media and they didn't constantly lie perhaps more of the country would put more faith in what they say. I'm not a resourceful guy, but I can easily find people all over youtube that are. None of them seem to make such claims and speak about things that he is actually doing that are benefiting the country. Then to add, it is a fact that the economy is on the upswing and unemployment rates are dropping. That is my way of seeing through the fog of lies and conspiracies being broadcast ever so abundantly.

There are educated normal people who still back Trump, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone mention that Trump, the guy who has documentaries about his success in the business world, actually blew all his money that was inherited? and is borrowing money from other countries to make it appear he is successful. There is a documentary of him on netflix, I'll go and watch it now and see if it mentions that he inherited all his money and made poor business investments and lost it all. I'm already 90% certain that's not the case, but I'll go watch it. If it claims otherwise I'm not going to go for a story such as he paid others to make a documentary about him to make him appear to be successful.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not going to fall for conspiracy theories, many people exist that back trump and are very politically involved and I'm not referring to 'politicians' but your every day average joe.


To be sure, Trump didn't lose everything due to his poor business skills, as he still had plenty of assets, but chances are he's not as rich as he claims he is despite those loans from dangerous foreign sources.
The attack on the mainstream media is born out of their criticism of Trump, something which he has never liked. In that way, he has always admired dictatorial strongmen like Putin and Erdogan who have had a long history of suppressing the press, often through violence as well as accusations of lying. Because the press is recognized in the US constitution as essential for a free society and a free government, this attack on the media is especially worrisome when Trump makes attacks on them simply for being critical.


He attacks them because they lie endlessly, more than him. It isn't a free press. If someone tells the truth about war they get fired. They are the mouthpiece of the war industry. They have launched sick attacks on Tulsi Gabbard already because she's anti war.


Whether the mainstream media lies about Trump is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, while the normally centrist CNN has since taken a definite Anti-Trump stance, I believe they are telling the truth. Again, Trump, because of his over sensitive, over sized ego, can't take criticism, which is why the brown nosing Fox has pretty much become his administration's version of Pravda. The fact remains, there has never been a President in love with all the press, but this is the first one to disregard and attack the media's essential role in free government and free society.


The media has never gone after a President like this before, and Trump can't help himself but fire back. He's a brash New Yorker. They aren't telling the truth and that's a matter of fact, they have run with endless fake stories.


As I recall, there was a constant barrage against Obama by Fox, and before him, Clinton. The difference was, neither of them lowered themselves to that level by "firing back."


Obama didn't need to fire back, the whole liberal establishment did it for him. Plus he's spineless. Clinton bombed Iraq to get them off his back. The press for the most part talked about him like it was the second coming.


Trump has the whole right wing establishment backing him.
Don't mistake being a soft spoken gentleman for being spineless.
Seth Rich's family don't buy into the conspiracy crap.
Steele? That MI6 agent who demonstrated Trump's kinky sexual interest in watersports? Why shouldn't he reveal what he's found? His country - your country - is an ally of the US, and so if their mutual enemy might have leverage over an American President, he has the responsibility to do something.


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11 Feb 2019, 6:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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here is one(it's not as funny as the one I saw before). There are others, she is an easy target because she lied a lot through the entire process.


this one is better, LOL, this corruption is killing me.

While it was reckless of Clinton to use a non-government server, I fail to see how it constitutes treason as there was no intent to aid an enemy. As a matter of fact, there have been members of the Trump administration who have done the same thing, including his daughter.
If you want to see real treason, look at how Trump's people had met with Russian agents to get help against Clinton. That, with the loans the Russians had floated him provided the leverage they needed to turn Trump into a user friendly asset. That is treason.

A general who did the same thing got charged


I assume that was military justice, not civilian.

It’s the same law violated so no you assume wrong.

You all want trump in prison for having used personal phone. But Hillary shares classified documents outside government servers breaking federal law and you don’t care.



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here is one(it's not as funny as the one I saw before). There are others, she is an easy target because she lied a lot through the entire process.


this one is better, LOL, this corruption is killing me.

While it was reckless of Clinton to use a non-government server, I fail to see how it constitutes treason as there was no intent to aid an enemy. As a matter of fact, there have been members of the Trump administration who have done the same thing, including his daughter.
If you want to see real treason, look at how Trump's people had met with Russian agents to get help against Clinton. That, with the loans the Russians had floated him provided the leverage they needed to turn Trump into a user friendly asset. That is treason.

A general who did the same thing got charged


I assume that was military justice, not civilian.

It’s the same law violated so no you assume wrong.

You all want trump in prison for having used personal phone. But Hillary shares classified documents outside government servers breaking federal law and you don’t care.


No, I want Trump removed from office for purposely allowing himself to be compromised by Putin who wants to make America his b***h.


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11 Feb 2019, 10:51 pm

Hillary received millions from SA. But hey she’s better. Meanwhile there’s 0 evidence that trump is working with Russia beyond every president wanting peace with them.



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Hillary received millions from SA. But hey she’s better. Meanwhile there’s 0 evidence that trump is working with Russia beyond every president wanting peace with them.


All those convictions and indictments by Mueller says otherwise that there's nothing against Trump.


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