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22 Jul 2020, 7:22 am
bee33 wrote:
I have had someone close to me die of an illness that we knew was terminal for over a year before he died. It was incredibly helpful to me not to have religion or any other supernatural belief during that time. Acceptance is the only way to cope with such devastating loss, as far as I can see. At least it is for me. Hope is a terrible thing when there is no justification for it. How heart-wrenching it would have been to think that there could be a miracle or some other impossible relief if only I prayed hard enough.
Me too, I cared someone I love through a terminal illness right up to their last breath. I have to admit that the body seemed to radiate some kind of energy for a while after. Mostly I was struck by how similar a human death is to any other animal's death. These diseases don't have a conscience and can strike the most undeserving people.
auntblabby, there's more in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.
Precicely why I can't be absolute about it or claim knowledge. (I still pay lip service to the gods)
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22 Jul 2020, 10:06 am
i've had experiences i couldn't explain away, hidden knowledge that i did not get via conventional direct means from its source. that is the only reason why i believe. i believe god (or an agent of god) said to me, "ok young whippersnapper, explain away THIS!" (i useta be agnostic)
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22 Jul 2020, 10:31 am
If 'You' Will Help Someone 'See' Heaven On Earth, You've Probably Done Enough.
If You Will See Heaven On Earth, You Understand This Life Now is Enough.
If You Give Up Hope, You Don't Have Any Hope.
If You Do Not Not Believe, You Will Not Will With Believe.
The Placebo Effect and Nocebo Effect of Belief, Both Work as Science Shows.
With Enough Belief that One is Lovingly Supported in Healing, Even, So-Called Incurable Disease Will Go into Remission; And Into the Medical Files aS UNexplained Recovery.
THere Is Real MaGiC iN LoVE iN Terms of Loving Faith And Belief That Both Gives And Receives Hope of Faith Living Loving Now Breathing.
i Will Not Make Anyone See Heaven Now. But i Do And Have Seen Up Close the Miracle of What LoVinG iMaGiNaTioN And CReaTiViTY BreatheS in Stone Humans Living Loving SoulS AGAiN.
This Much i KNoW, What Happens When We Crawl This EartH Dead.
This Much i Sense, What Flying HeART oF SPiRiT LoVinG ETerNaLLY Soul Feels Breathes Now.
Again, A Greater Question is What Happens When We Really ReAlly Live:
Clue:
Love
More than A Four Letter Word; Colors We Create Within Beyond Any Gold at the End of A Rainbow We Give And Share WitH OTHerS ETeRaLLY NoW iN LoVing 'Autotelic Flow Frission' iN DiViNE Vision FOR REAL NOW LiVinG.
For one Who Lives This Way; One Only Wishes to Pass Heaven On to Others After They Pass Away Yet Continue to StaY iN Eyes of LovE GiVinG For Giving Thanks Giving.
Pyramids Will Fall to Dust Labeled as Trump Towers Love Lives On in Feelings Senses of Giving Sharing That are as Real as Real GetS in terms of Humanity Breathing
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SMiLE For Real That Spells Love and So Much More...
This is What Can And Will Happen After You Continue to Love...
But for those Who Call it 'Mush'; They Are Yet to Rise from A 'Trump Swamp'.
i've Seen A Few of 'Those Creature Features' More Scary; Much More Scary than 'Dead'...
While It may not Be appropriate to Play a Halloween Song in July; It's True; for the Last 42 Months, the 'Orange TrumPKiN', BRings Halloween to Stay; My Suggestion to get out of Hell Living Dead is simple: Yes, By my God, Eternally Now, Dance Sing Free.
NoW It's Worth Noting i have A Shadow too; i only Bring it out to Play NoW For Special Occasions Like When Werewolves Come to Play Again in London Bridges Falling Down; Humpty Dumpty Fell Down; No one could Put all the Pieces Back Together but me; hehe; So God And or Devil Yes
How 'bout You
Heavenly Dance Works for me And All of 'Hers' In Terror Nights Where Sweet Dreams come best...
Anyway; My Special Interest in Restrictive Repetitive WaY in Water, Wave, Ocean Whole Motion of Dance And Song is Eternal Heaven Now; Camel Moving Through Eye of This CuLTuRaL Needle; Dancing Tight Ropes With Ease; EffortLess Doing; Some Folks CaLL it Tao; Other Folks Name it Autotelic Frission FLoW ETeRNaLLY NoW too...
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22 Jul 2020, 10:40 am
According the wisdom of kabbalah ( which I have been studying for 20 years ( not Madonnas' kind) we are reincarnated again and again until we get it right. Then we are divested of our corporeal form, which is a kind of character, an illusion designed to help each of us correct our souls according to our Reshimo (Jewish Karma), and then we remain in Ein Sof ( infinity) where there is only love. We have actually never left Ein Sof, this life is just virtual reality. Easy
_________________ My best will just have to be good enough.
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22 Jul 2020, 11:09 am
Corona is actually a catalyst sent to speed things along according to Kabbalists. We ( humanity) are a pathogen working in disharmony with nature, corrupting and exploiting the integral system of nature as our souls reach the final correction, which is now. We will have to overcome the hate which is now coming to it's highest point and attain harmony, the collapse of capitalism and the revelation of hate is transpiring, and we will have to all overcome our differences and help each other or the hologram will be nastier than we can even imagine. The antidote to Corona is mutual responsibility and unity above all differences, connection. We must create an altruistic society as opposed to egoistic. Corona is natures way of saying " go to your rooms and think about your behaviour, I'm taking away all your stupid toys. If you can't even wear a mask to prevent someone else getting sick then Corona will stay till you learn to care for others."
_________________ My best will just have to be good enough.
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22 Jul 2020, 11:20 am
Teach51 wrote:
Corona is actually a catalyst sent to speed things along according to Kabbalists. We ( humanity) are a pathogen working in dosharmony with nature, corrupting and exploiting the integral system of nature as our souls reach the final correction, which is now. We will have to overcome the hate which is now coming to it's highest point and attain harmony, the collapse of capitalism and the revelation of hate is transpiring, and we will have to all overcome our differences and help each other or the hologram will be nastier than we can even imagine. The antidote to Corona is mutual responsibility and unity above all differences, connection. We must create an altruistic society as opposed to egoistic. Corona is natures way of saying " go to your rooms and think about your behaviour, I'm taking away all your stupid toys. If you can't even wear a mask to prevent someone else getting sick then Corona will stay till you learn to care for others."
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22 Jul 2020, 11:28 am
auntblabby wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Corona is actually a catalyst sent to speed things along according to Kabbalists. We ( humanity) are a pathogen working in dosharmony with nature, corrupting and exploiting the integral system of nature as our souls reach the final correction, which is now. We will have to overcome the hate which is now coming to it's highest point and attain harmony, the collapse of capitalism and the revelation of hate is transpiring, and we will have to all overcome our differences and help each other or the hologram will be nastier than we can even imagine. The antidote to Corona is mutual responsibility and unity above all differences, connection. We must create an altruistic society as opposed to egoistic. Corona is natures way of saying " go to your rooms and think about your behaviour, I'm taking away all your stupid toys. If you can't even wear a mask to prevent someone else getting sick then Corona will stay till you learn to care for others."
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22 Jul 2020, 11:32 am
Aristophanes wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Corona is actually a catalyst sent to speed things along according to Kabbalists. We ( humanity) are a pathogen working in dosharmony with nature, corrupting and exploiting the integral system of nature as our souls reach the final correction, which is now. We will have to overcome the hate which is now coming to it's highest point and attain harmony, the collapse of capitalism and the revelation of hate is transpiring, and we will have to all overcome our differences and help each other or the hologram will be nastier than we can even imagine. The antidote to Corona is mutual responsibility and unity above all differences, connection. We must create an altruistic society as opposed to egoistic. Corona is natures way of saying " go to your rooms and think about your behaviour, I'm taking away all your stupid toys. If you can't even wear a mask to prevent someone else getting sick then Corona will stay till you learn to care for others."