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01 Jun 2021, 10:53 pm

Do you believe CNN is propaganda? People of a conservative bent tend to believe this is so....just like liberals believe Fox News is propaganda.

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01 Jun 2021, 11:06 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Do you believe CNN is propaganda? People of a conservative bent tend to believe this is so....just like liberals believe Fox News is propaganda.

I would argue both CNN and Fox are propaganda, just in different ways and for different ends.

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02 Jun 2021, 12:06 am

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I wish Fox News was taken off the goddamn air. It poisons the entire country with vicious propaganda, all funded by hyper-greedy psychopaths.

hyper-greedy self-centred narcissistic psychopaths at the pointy end of the pyramid

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02 Jun 2021, 12:15 am

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I don't see how Fox news is propoganda. I mean they give their opinions and interpretations that's just opinions and interpretations, not necessarily, propoganda, is it?

Fox has personalities like Tucker Carlson who denies that white nationalism is real and peddles the great replacement lie, while he and others promote the idiotic lie that Biden cheated and that Trump is still President. If that isn't just propaganda but also outright lies, I don't know what is.

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02 Jun 2021, 12:21 am

Well I don't know if Biden's administration cheated or not, as not a lot of investigation seems to be going into it. However, the cheat is just an opinion. On Fox News shows, they will talk about news stories but they always back them up by showing footage of the event and talking to people from those events, so I feel that they are able to back up claims a lot.

For example, people say that the "border crisis" is not a crisis and it's just fox news propaganda. But on Fox news, they actually interviewed people who work at the border, who say it is a crisis and confirmed it. That's just one example, but it seems they are often able to back up their stories in that sense.

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02 Jun 2021, 12:25 am

ironpony wrote:

as not a lot of investigation seems to be going into it. .

What is there to investigate? the allegations came from unreliable sources.

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02 Jun 2021, 12:27 am

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Well, Biden did not cheat. As plenty of state level Republicans, and even Trump's own AG William Barr, had all said the election was completely on the up and up, there really isn't a need for an investigation. And as Republicans in Arizona have damaged voting machines in their hairbrained, amateurish quest to prove Trump had actually won, I think it's more than fair to question the GOP's competency to carry out any sort of investigation.

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02 Jun 2021, 12:29 am

I can't believe anyone is still giving oxygen to such a preposterous idea?

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02 Jun 2021, 2:09 am

ironpony wrote:

I don't see how Fox news is propoganda. I mean they give their opinions and interpretations that's just opinions and interpretations, not necessarily, propoganda, is it?

Its mostly the same opinions and interpretations over and over again, repeating cliche claims over and over with no real logic or evidence. Also following the money gives you a good idea as to the motives.

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02 Jun 2021, 2:21 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

Do you believe CNN is propaganda? People of a conservative bent tend to believe this is so....just like liberals believe Fox News is propaganda.

All modern media has a propaganda element. Their model is to make money by discussing what they think their audience wants to hear. CNN was extremely opposed to Trump, but they are more subtly in favor of an economically “centrist” elite. Same with MSNBC. They are very partisan against the right, but they still present a constrained ovorton window that just plain avoids certain topics. They also have a tendency to dumb everything down like they are talking to a toddler.

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02 Jun 2021, 2:54 am

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I miss 45. Four months after 45 left the office, I feel like I am living in a communist county.

Go to China, North Korea, or Cuba, then you'll see you're living in nothing of the sort.

We don't have fair elections and fair trials since 46 took over. We are well on our way to becoming a communist nation. And our precious liberties are being chipped away by creepy joe will. We have the 1st,2nd. The 4th and the 10th come 2024?

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02 Jun 2021, 2:54 am

cyberdad wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

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I miss 45. Four months after 45 left the office, I feel like I am living in a communist county.

Go to China, North Korea, or Cuba, then you'll see you're living in nothing of the sort.

Dude calls himself RobZombie so I am suspecting troll....(although I am a fan of the original Rob Zombie)

You are the one Attacking my character and not my belief, so by definition. , You are the troll, not I!

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02 Jun 2021, 2:59 am

RobZombie wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

RobZombie wrote:

I miss 45. Four months after 45 left the office, I feel like I am living in a communist county.

Go to China, North Korea, or Cuba, then you'll see you're living in nothing of the sort.

Dude calls himself RobZombie so I am suspecting troll....(although I am a fan of the original Rob Zombie)

You are the one Attacking my character and not my belief, so by definition. , You are the troll, not I!

I'm afraid you are alone in thinking the US is becoming a communist country (which sounded a little radical) so based on past experience where a random person throws a crazy claim I thought you might be trolling. But if not then you are welcome to your beliefs.

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02 Jun 2021, 4:06 am

RobZombie wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

RobZombie wrote:

I miss 45. Four months after 45 left the office, I feel like I am living in a communist county.

Go to China, North Korea, or Cuba, then you'll see you're living in nothing of the sort.

What evidence do you have to support any of those charges?
And America would be better off under that narcissistic, orange garbage bag filled with rotting fast food?

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02 Jun 2021, 5:51 am

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And America would be better off under that narcissistic, orange garbage bag filled with rotting fast food?

Well he does wash it down all that rotting fast food with diet coke to keep in fantastic shape :lol:

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02 Jun 2021, 8:37 am

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We don't have fair elections and fair trials since 46 took over.

Republican gerrymandering ensured that was true long before Mango Mussolini held office.

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