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31 Aug 2011, 9:51 pm

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Sometimes labor unions have a place and sometimes not. I have mixed feeling on their legitimacy.
They can get out of hand with their tactics which can be driven more by greed than fairness.


When corporations want more money it is "capitalism".
When workers want more money it is "greed".



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31 Aug 2011, 10:09 pm

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When corporations want more money it is "capitalism".

No it is called corporate welfare.


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31 Aug 2011, 10:11 pm

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When you think the rich are rich because they're being rewarded by God, while the poor are poor because they're being punished.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

As far as I can tell nobody thinks that. Most conservatives do not use The Bible to promote capitalism.


actually, it is the basis of Calvinism. In the Reformation the idea of 'pre-destination' came up, (the idea that G-d already had pre-determined if you were going to heaven or the hot place because salvation was not earned by 'indulgences'/prayer/faith, etc. as the Catholic Church had ordained - it gets pretty complicated)

Anyway, the Calvinists figured out you could tell if G-d had pre-destined you for Heaven by how you got on in this life.

Several centuries later, the Prosperity theology a Christian religious belief whose proponents claim the Bible teaches that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians. Most teachers of prosperity theology maintain that a combination of faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always cause an increase in material wealth for those who practice these actions. Oral Roberts was the first to teach the doctrine of divine healing that God could miraculously solve financial problems through faith.

I don't have to tell you about TV evangelicals that preached tithing to their missions by promising financial relief to those that contributed.

anyway, I am not aware if this is only practiced by conservatives, however it is a prevalent dogma in the mega-churches.



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31 Aug 2011, 11:17 pm

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DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
When you think the rich are rich because they're being rewarded by God, while the poor are poor because they're being punished.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

As far as I can tell nobody thinks that. Most conservatives do not use The Bible to promote capitalism.


actually, it is the basis of Calvinism. In the Reformation the idea of 'pre-destination' came up, (the idea that G-d already had pre-determined if you were going to heaven or the hot place because salvation was not earned by 'indulgences'/prayer/faith, etc. as the Catholic Church had ordained - it gets pretty complicated)

Anyway, the Calvinists figured out you could tell if G-d had pre-destined you for Heaven by how you got on in this life.

Several centuries later, the Prosperity theology a Christian religious belief whose proponents claim the Bible teaches that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians. Most teachers of prosperity theology maintain that a combination of faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always cause an increase in material wealth for those who practice these actions. Oral Roberts was the first to teach the doctrine of divine healing that God could miraculously solve financial problems through faith.

I don't have to tell you about TV evangelicals that preached tithing to their missions by promising financial relief to those that contributed.

anyway, I am not aware if this is only practiced by conservatives, however it is a prevalent dogma in the mega-churches.


You're right on track, with the exception of Calvinism. Calvin was more one to emphasize the elect's upright, moral life, rather than how much money you had - - or didn't have. The notion of the prosperity gospel was picked up by evangelicals who might describe themselves as Calvinists, but are actually Arminians, who often make claims to born again experiences, and believer's baptisms.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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31 Aug 2011, 11:25 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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When you think the rich are rich because they're being rewarded by God, while the poor are poor because they're being punished.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

As far as I can tell nobody thinks that. Most conservatives do not use The Bible to promote capitalism.


Then I suggest you read this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011 ... onald.html

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I've never quite figured out how evangelical Protestantism and extreme fiscal conservatism are entangled. But they are, at least here in the U.S.

Apparently, the God worshipped by the most fundamentalist of born-again Christians prefers small government. He does not approve of raising taxes, even on the rich. (Some might say especially on the rich.)

I had all this explained to me years ago, shortly after arriving in the States, by a prominent leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, one of the most powerful evangelical denominations in the country.

This preacher was more intent on explaining why abortion is murder and homosexual behaviour should be criminalized. But he took the time to explain how God's plan applied to government finances, too.

The fact that wealthy Americans pay much lower taxes than wealthy people in any other developed country is, apparently, God's wish.

True believers would never force America's most pampered citizens to pay a greater share in order to help the less fortunate or reduce the nation's indebtedness. That sort of talk is just "class warfare."


There's more to the article. An interesting read.



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31 Aug 2011, 11:51 pm

...when you come on Wrongplanet and question global warming science. Oh, maybe it should have been right wing tin hat nut. My bad.



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02 Sep 2011, 12:40 am

When you figure your homophobia makes up for your closeted homosexuality.
Case in point - Very conservative disgraced Senator Larry Craig, and former Spokane Mayor Jim West; both of whom had built political careers on gay bashing, despite being secretly gay.

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02 Sep 2011, 1:37 am

If you believe the government can't solve all or even most of your problems, and won't always be there to help you in an emergency.


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02 Sep 2011, 1:39 am

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When you figure your homophobia makes up for your closeted homosexuality.
Case in point - Very conservative disgraced Senator Larry Craig, and former Spokane Mayor Jim West; both of whom had built political careers on gay bashing, despite being secretly gay.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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02 Sep 2011, 1:45 pm

You know you're a right-wing nut case when...

...you are openly anti-AS

...you hate other people without reason

...you deny the Holocaust actually happened

...you believe Dubya was the best President ever

...you think Obama is secretly a Muslim

...you believe there is nothing wrong with the economy


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02 Sep 2011, 2:01 pm

When you think the Tea Party are reasonable people.

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02 Sep 2011, 3:10 pm

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When you think the Tea Party are reasonable people.

Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The origins of the Tea Party movement were libertarian. The point was to constrain government to act within the limits of the Constitution and good sense. It was high-jacked by the right wing Republicans as soon as it showed signs of catching on.

Do you wish to live under the Constitution? Or would you prefer any whack-job law the Congress feels like passing the the President feels like signing?


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02 Sep 2011, 3:47 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
When you think the Tea Party are reasonable people.

Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The origins of the Tea Party movement were libertarian. The point was to constrain government to act within the limits of the Constitution and good sense. It was high-jacked by the right wing Republicans as soon as it showed signs of catching on.

Do you wish to live under the Constitution? Or would you prefer any whack-job law the Congress feels like passing the the President feels like signing?


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Actually, that last best describes both houses of congress for six of the eight years of Bush's presidency.

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02 Sep 2011, 3:48 pm

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The origins of the Tea Party movement were libertarian.

You mean racist.

But origins mean little, really. I bet you that Benedict Arnold had pretty noble origins, but that doesn't matter for what he is now.

Admitting the tea party are a bunch of idiots has relation with them being idiots and less with the constitution.


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02 Sep 2011, 3:55 pm

You think using the term "violent Islamist extremism" is a breath-taking accomplishment that's much better than actually preventing terrorism and prosecuting terrorists.

You think that having a few highly restrained liberal pundits on MSNBC (a network that dedicates 15 hours a week to Joe ratings loser's rightwing talking points) counterbalances having an unfettered rightwing propoganda outlet whose major pundit once said if he were President he'd let terrorists attack San Francisco and not help the city recover.

You think having a pundit on MSNBC occasionally say snarky things about the Tea Party counterbalances another network whose major pundit has hired people to stalk political opponents.


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02 Sep 2011, 3:59 pm

You pee your pants at mention of the Homeland Security memo on Rightwing Extremism because you know you're a Rightwing Extremist.


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