Favorite politican in the history if the U.S.A

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27 Jun 2009, 6:59 pm

As of 20th Century mine will go to Coolidge, Eisenhower and Nixon
19th Century will be Lincoin, and Jefferson
18th Century- Washington of course



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27 Jun 2009, 7:03 pm

Dan Quayle.

Gotta love that fella.

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27 Jun 2009, 7:17 pm

Bully for TR, not that other Roosevelt...


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27 Jun 2009, 7:44 pm

gamefreak wrote:
As of 20th Century mine will go to Coolidge, Eisenhower and Nixon
19th Century will be Lincoin, and Jefferson
18th Century- Washington of course

I can agree with your 20th century picks. Not a huge fan of Lincoln. Hamilton had some interesting ideas- I know he was ideologically opposite Jefferson, but I have to respect what his financial policies accomplished.


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27 Jun 2009, 7:47 pm

Orwell wrote:
gamefreak wrote:
As of 20th Century mine will go to Coolidge, Eisenhower and Nixon
19th Century will be Lincoin, and Jefferson
18th Century- Washington of course

I can agree with your 20th century picks. Not a huge fan of Lincoln. Hamilton had some interesting ideas- I know he was ideologically opposite Jefferson, but I have to respect what his financial policies accomplished.



I have to admit Lincoin wasn't the greatest however he did pass the emancipation proclamation and help free slaves.



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27 Jun 2009, 7:50 pm

20th Century - FDR, JFK, Eugene Debs

19th - Lincoln, Robert G Ingersoll.



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27 Jun 2009, 7:51 pm

gamefreak wrote:
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gamefreak wrote:
As of 20th Century mine will go to Coolidge, Eisenhower and Nixon
19th Century will be Lincoin, and Jefferson
18th Century- Washington of course

I can agree with your 20th century picks. Not a huge fan of Lincoln. Hamilton had some interesting ideas- I know he was ideologically opposite Jefferson, but I have to respect what his financial policies accomplished.



I have to admit Lincoin wasn't the greatest however he did pass the emancipation proclamation and help free slaves.

Democrats are ashamed that Lincoln was a Republican.

Republicans are ashamed that Lincoln was a Republican.


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27 Jun 2009, 7:51 pm

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I have to admit Lincoin wasn't the greatest however he did pass the emancipation proclamation and help free slaves.

Well... the Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually do anything, as it did not apply to Union-held territory (where Lincoln actually had power) but only to Confederate territory. It was a tactical maneuver- he hoped mass slave rebellions would weaken the Confederacy. His motives in the Civil War were not to end slavery, but to preserve the Union- he said that if he could win the war without freeing a single slave, he would do it. He also quite openly said that he wanted blacks kept in an inferior position to whites.


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27 Jun 2009, 8:58 pm

Hmmm, i'll have to say Eisenhower and Clinton for the 20th century here. <.< They're kinda tied.



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28 Jun 2009, 1:31 am

Dox47 wrote:
Bully for TR, not that other Roosevelt...


Cheers, mate!

...And John Marshall. TR & JM FTW.

Not like the presidents that tried to (or succeeded in) manipulating the size of the Supreme Court for political gain.


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28 Jun 2009, 6:12 am

Orwell wrote:
gamefreak wrote:
As of 20th Century mine will go to Coolidge, Eisenhower and Nixon
19th Century will be Lincoin, and Jefferson
18th Century- Washington of course

I can agree with your 20th century picks. Not a huge fan of Lincoln. Hamilton had some interesting ideas- I know he was ideologically opposite Jefferson, but I have to respect what his financial policies accomplished.


Hamilton's Ideas won out in the long run. He is the Statist from Hell. He and General/President Washington literally led 13,000 troops into Pennsylvania to extract a twenty five cents per barrel tax from the whiskey produced by the yeomen of Pennsylvania. The farmers of Pennsylvania were Designated Victims of a tax which the government would not impose on the wine drinking elite of New York. See Whiskey Rebellion.

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30 Jun 2009, 7:42 pm

20th Century - Ralph Nader, Paul Wellestone, Russ Feingold, Pete Stark, Dennis Kuinich, Eugene McCarthy, Frank P. Zeidler, Norman Thomas and Eugene Debbs.
19th Century - Daniel De Leon, Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, and Ulysses S. Grant.
18th Century -Thomas Paine, Daniel Shays, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson (despite some reservations).



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30 Jun 2009, 7:45 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
20th Century - Ralph Nader, Paul Wellestone, Russ Feingold, Pete Stark, Dennis Kuinich, Eugene McCarthy, Frank P. Zeidler, Norman Thomas and Eugene Debbs.
19th Century - Daniel De Leon, Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, and Ulysses S. Grant.
18th Century -Thomas Paine, Daniel Shays, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson (despite some reservations).


Ben Franklin for sure. Why do you suppose your Most Popular in the 20th century consists mostly of Pinko Stinko Commie Liberals if not outright Commies.

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30 Jun 2009, 7:53 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
20th Century - Ralph Nader, Paul Wellestone, Russ Feingold, Pete Stark, Dennis Kuinich, Eugene McCarthy, Frank P. Zeidler, Norman Thomas and Eugene Debbs.
19th Century - Daniel De Leon, Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, and Ulysses S. Grant.
18th Century -Thomas Paine, Daniel Shays, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson (despite some reservations).


Ben Franklin for sure. Why do you suppose your Most Popular in the 20th century consists mostly of Pinko Stinko Commie Liberals if not outright Commies.

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My 20th Centrury consists of left progressives and a few soft/democratic socialists because I believe they best transfer the social welfare spirit of Paine (my favourite 18th century American politician) into an industrial or postindustrial society.



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30 Jun 2009, 9:02 pm

TJ, good old thomas jefferson, is the only athiest prez ever elected, and was a rather decent fellow.


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30 Jun 2009, 9:04 pm

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TJ, good old thomas jefferson, is the only athiest prez ever elected, and was a rather decent fellow.

I wouldn't call Jefferson an atheist, he's more of a deist...

And he did write the Jefferson bible.


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