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14 Jan 2010, 3:59 pm

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I'm sure there are some people here that believe they and other people have souls. So some questions:

1. Do animals have souls?

1a. If you answered yes to 1, At exactly what point down the scale of species does a living organism still have a soul? eg if a cat has one, does a worm, then does amoeba, bacteria, virus, protein?

2. To what is the soul tied? For example if I transplant my brain into another person, my body dies, as does their brain, and I have executive control of their body, which plane are our souls the next day?

3. Does a genetic clone have a soul?

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14 Jan 2010, 4:07 pm

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I don't think an animal has a soul.

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14 Jan 2010, 4:09 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:

Asmodeus wrote:

I don't think an animal has a soul.

If a person does, and an animal doesn't, what about a genetic hybrid?

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14 Jan 2010, 4:15 pm

I read a little about this just today!

Jehovah's Witnesses speak of "body, soul and spirit", saying animals also have souls ... but I have no idea how far they go with that.

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14 Jan 2010, 4:48 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:

Asmodeus wrote:

I don't think an animal has a soul.

"gasp"

Sit down son, I have something to tell you....

You are an animal who was adopted by xenu space aliens.

Sorry we didn't tell you sooner but we figured you'd find out on your own...

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14 Jan 2010, 6:47 pm

Any real answers, at all?

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14 Jan 2010, 8:11 pm

Asmodeus wrote:

Any real answers, at all?

The only real answer is that people love the idea of souls because it makes them somehow special and exempts them from obliteration after they die. The soul is a generally attractive concept invented by ignorant primitive cultures to explain the concept of the self and it has no basis in any factual evidence in animals or people.

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14 Jan 2010, 11:42 pm

1. Animals don't have souls.

2. Animal-person hybrids don't have souls.

3. Autistics don't have souls.

4. NTs are also quite soulless.

5. Only schizophrenics have souls, we just need to stop them from taking their meds, as that kills their true essence.

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14 Jan 2010, 11:54 pm

Yeah, only schizophrenics have souls. That is why the government is always watching us. :lol:

I don't think of the soul in the Hindu sense. I believe we all have spirit. I believe in the collective unconscious theory. The soul of a germ can breathe into your soul. But these terms are anthropomorphic.

I've read of some reincarnation reports from psychiatrists who practiced hypnosis. Unwittingly, they uncovered past life afflictions and in doing so, the patient was cured of the neurosis.

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14 Jan 2010, 11:58 pm

Magnus wrote:

Yeah, only schizophrenics have souls. That is why the government is always watching us. :lol:

I don't think of the soul in the Hindu sense. I believe we all have spirit. I believe in the collective unconscious theory. The soul of a germ can breathe into your soul. But these terms are anthropomorphic.

I've read of some reincarnation reports from psychiatrists who practiced hypnosis. Unwittingly, they uncovered past life afflictions and in doing so, the patient was cured of the neurosis.

When people are suggestible under hypnosis they can be made to believe almost anything.

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15 Jan 2010, 1:59 am

anything that is alive has a soul, and do tell me animal's don't have souls, if your keep a pet that your love. People that don't believe in one are rather empty spiritless nothings that should shut their mouths and lie down in the dirt and rot, because whats the use of going on if your a dead soulless lump

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15 Jan 2010, 2:15 am

1. Do animals have souls?

As said in another thread, my pet birds seem to exhibit many characteristics of humans in regard to their personalities. I personally think that they have souls.

1a. If you answered yes to 1, At exactly what point down the scale of species does a living organism still have a soul? eg if a cat has one, does a worm, then does amoeba, bacteria, virus, protein?

It would need a brain. My own personal idea is that a physical brain acts like a computer interface for the soul.

2. To what is the soul tied? For example if I transplant my brain into another person, my body dies, as does their brain, and I have executive control of their body, which plane are our souls the next day?

In my opinion, the soul is tied to the brain. If you did that, then you would be "alive" and the person whose body you are operating would be, physically, dead.

3. Does a genetic clone have a soul?

It depends if a person's identical twin has a soul. If yes, then so would an artificial clone.

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15 Jan 2010, 2:39 am

Friskeygirl wrote:

You must be terribly frightened of dying. Sorry about that. It can't be avoided.

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15 Jan 2010, 2:48 am

leejosepho wrote:

I read a little about this just today!

Jehovah's Witnesses speak of "body, soul and spirit", saying animals also have souls ... but I have no idea how far they go with that.

With things like that, it is difficult to wade between truth, half-truths, corruptions, and outright falsehoods. Due to my birds being my best friends for the last 8 years, I am quite biased to think that they have souls. But as far as Jehovah's *pseudo* Witnesses go, it would be like wading through a landfill to find a diamond, in my opinion at the least.

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15 Jan 2010, 2:57 am

Sand wrote:

Friskeygirl wrote:

You must be terribly frightened of dying. Sorry about that. It can't be avoided.

Not at all, don't put your fears on me, dying is just part of life, something we all will go though, its rather pathetic being so empty inside how do you cope, must really suck not seeing the world around you as alive, in your view we are all animated lumps of flesh with pre-programed responses to stimuli, wtf do you care if others see life as a miracle, if its a delusion so what, its my delusion.

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15 Jan 2010, 3:12 am

Souls taste great with spirits. ;P

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