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Giftorcurse
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16 Jan 2010, 10:46 am

We all know that when he comes around, he's going to be a savvy politician and master manipulator. In the media, however, he is usually shown to possess supernatural abilities (immortalitiy, telepathy, pyrokinesis, etc.) in conjunction with his experience. It begs the question: just how powerful is he? Your thoughts?


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16 Jan 2010, 11:07 am

He can turn wine into water and give people leprosy.

Pretty badass.



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16 Jan 2010, 11:13 am

how powerful is Gandalf the Grey? And who would win between him and Darth Vader? That is the real issue.



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16 Jan 2010, 12:31 pm

TitusLucretiusCarus wrote:
how powerful is Gandalf the Grey? And who would win between him and Darth Vader? That is the real issue.


Chuck Norris would win that fight.



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16 Jan 2010, 12:48 pm

Chuck Norris is the Anti-christ....



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16 Jan 2010, 12:52 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
We all know

We all know? How do we all know? Seems to me there's a fundamental flaw in your claim here. This is the equivalent of me saying "We all know the unicorns will return some day, and we know they have one horn, but what color will they be? Your thoughts?".
And in case you don't see the flaws in that, let me point them out to you: Unicorns do not and have not ever existed, and can therefore not return. The unicorn is a fictional concept, described as a horse with one spiral horn (possibly derived from or reimagined through combining the images of a horse and a narwhal), but to say that we know that unicorns have one horn does not equate to unicorns being real. Even ignoring these facts and assuming a hypothetical world in which unicorns have existed in the past, we'd still not have any evidence to suggest that unicorns will return in the future, or sufficient knowledge about unicorns to know that they will all be the same color, or indeed what color they would be. And if you just so happened to know all sorts of things about unicorns, that still wouldn't mean that "we all know".


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16 Jan 2010, 1:14 pm

He will propably manipulate peoples the same way that Morgoth and Sauron in the Silmarillon, using fear and dark inner emotions by clever lies. Much like the actual USA right wing... If he's clever he will use hate speech and fear of islamics to manipulate the right wing christians.


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16 Jan 2010, 1:33 pm

He can bench press 666 lb.

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16 Jan 2010, 4:19 pm

Ha this is something I have been annoying christians with for years. My logic goes something like this

1. God and Lucifer have a war in heaven
2. God wins, and Lucifer escapes, not to just any planet, oh no he comes to gods ultimate creation, earth, and starts screwing with it.
3. God is unable to prevent this destruction and dominion of his greatest creation and keeps saying ''You wait you bastard I'll get you for this" and does nothing about it.

So considering god was unable to prevent a war on his own turf, lucifer thought he had a chance of winning, and god has so far been unable to prevent the bastardisation of his greatest creation.

The more important question should be 'just how powerful is god'

or

Even more important 'who would win a fight between mighty mouse and danger mouse' (mice are very important, because AS WE ALL KNOW they paid for the construction of the Earth)


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16 Jan 2010, 4:21 pm

(Un-)Holy crap - that guy must be built like a linebacker 8O



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16 Jan 2010, 4:28 pm

:lmao:

was this an attempt at a serious thread?


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16 Jan 2010, 6:03 pm

The Bible says the Antichrist (the final one) will be insanely persuasive and people will follow him because of his power to deceive. He will be coupled with a "false prophet" who will be able to perform what appears to be miracles and will use that ability to get people to worship the Antichrist.

As far as "power?" He will have worldly power (will lead a global-scale system of government), but other than being incredibly charismatic and persuasive, it's not like he will be able to shoot lasers out of his eyes. He will wage wars against nations and groups that refuse to bow down before him (so his "power" won't be that impressive).



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16 Jan 2010, 7:13 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
The Bible says the Antichrist (the final one)

Somehow that makes me think of this:
"The Antichrist? The Antichrist?"
"No, I'm just an Antichrist. Didn't you know I come in sixpacks?"

DentArthurDent probably knows the original quote.



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16 Jan 2010, 7:34 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
Even more important 'who would win a fight between mighty mouse and danger mouse' (mice are very important, because AS WE ALL KNOW they paid for the construction of the Earth)

But they aren't native if they built Earth. Dolphins are the smartest native Earthlings.


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16 Jan 2010, 7:36 pm

I think Elephants may be smartest...


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16 Jan 2010, 7:50 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
The Bible says the Antichrist (the final one) will be insanely persuasive and people will follow him because of his power to deceive. He will be coupled with a "false prophet" who will be able to perform what appears to be miracles and will use that ability to get people to worship the Antichrist.

As far as "power?" He will have worldly power (will lead a global-scale system of government), but other than being incredibly charismatic and persuasive, it's not like he will be able to shoot lasers out of his eyes. He will wage wars against nations and groups that refuse to bow down before him (so his "power" won't be that impressive).

Thats my understanding.
His power would be through persuasion and would ulitmately be political/military not supernatural.
Nostradamus built upon the Bible and stated that weve already had two out of three "antichrists". The first two being Napoleon, and Hitler.

The next one will be a muslim figure who "wears the blue turban" and who will unite "greater arabia" into an empire.

On the other hand the chefs on the food channel claim that the finsl Antichrist is Rachel Ray, but the experts agree that he/her powers are of persuasion and charisma -not magical.



So get your antichrists right