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27 Sep 2010, 12:55 am

Let me say, for starters, that I detest the candidacy of Christine O'Donnell. I view her as the embodiment of anti-intellectual, religious demagoguery that's gripped the GOP for the past decade. Someone who rejects evolutionary biology and imagines the science pointing to the effectiveness of contraceptives surely won't enact reality-based public policy. There are, of course, her moronic comments on scientists creating mice with human brains. She's negligent at running a campaign office (financially) and may even be a political crook (if the investigations go anywhere). And, of course, I strongly oppose her stance on self-satisfaction. 8)

But this seems moronic:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7PUatY8OI[/youtube]

It was quite clear from the context of the clip that O'Donnell was using this as a story of how adolescents can be sucked into EVVILLL UNDERGROUND SHADOWWWYYY practices. It also seems to be BS or at least a severely distorted memory - but that's hard to verify.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iWRw3oZdg4[/youtube]

Firstly, I know "witch" is a pretty ambigious term - most people who either describe themselves or others as "witches" are refering to a cultural construct that's a sort of mess of elements from Christian mythology and a poor understanding of the various heterogenous animistic spiritual traditions from across the globe. Most people - in the modern context - who claim to be "witches" tend to be "Wiccans" - and this New Age religious belief is based on a revisionist account of pre-Christian Europe, 19th century spiritualism, and various Christian mythological constructs the Wiccans define themselves using. To me the whole practice -especially using a slight modification of a negative stereotype AS YOUR identity - seems pretty stupid, but I'm just an atheist who believes in the use of rational thought. :roll:

I don't know who the hell Christine O'Donnell's "witch" friends - but claims about a "Satanic Altar" with "blood dripping from it" seem pretty bogus to me. I can't be sure, though, because "witchcraft" is such a decentralized concept that any misfit who thinks up moronically outrageous practices & gains a few equally attentive-grapping followers can probably idenitfy themselves as a "witch" and nutcase Christians will interpret this as evidence of a shadowy underworld. :roll:

Anyway, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? It was done in the 1980s and O'Donnell has since became a dyed-in-the-wool faithhead. She was clearly using this example to scare gullible suburban Christians into going on (semi-metaphorical) witch hunts to purify their shopping malls of all evil and subliminal anti-Christian messages and ban EVVILLL books.

Nevertheless, part of me things she deserves this backlash for her "dabbling in witchcraft [during the '80s]" past as when you use religious demagoguery to get elected to office, expect to be voted out (or, rather, not get passed the post-primary stage) on the basis of religious idiocy.

I still find it absurd, though.



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27 Sep 2010, 1:00 am

You are in CANADA. Why do you care so much? If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.


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27 Sep 2010, 1:08 am

John_Browning wrote:
You are in CANADA. Why do you care so much? If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.


Just as we watched G.W.Bush mellow out. What's to worry?



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27 Sep 2010, 1:37 am

Sand wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
You are in CANADA. Why do you care so much? If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.


Just as we watched G.W.Bush mellow out. What's to worry?

Bush was the president and didn't have a sharply divided congress to deal with. When I was 18 I thought the republicans having 1-party rule would be be cool, but there were a few things that didn't go as planned. Now I think there needs to be enough of a balance for bills to get seriously debated before getting passed into law. The republicans will not have such a huge majority (if they have one at all) that Christine O'Donnell could have her way without a debate, so she will have to participate in the democratic process and negotiate with the democrats.

I don't see her kissing Obama's ring (which he keeps in his back pocket) to get any concessions though.


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27 Sep 2010, 1:55 am

John_Browning wrote:
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You are in CANADA. Why do you care so much? If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.


Just as we watched G.W.Bush mellow out. What's to worry?

Bush was the president and didn't have a sharply divided congress to deal with. When I was 18 I thought the republicans having 1-party rule would be be cool, but there were a few things that didn't go as planned. Now I think there needs to be enough of a balance for bills to get seriously debated before getting passed into law. The republicans will not have such a huge majority (if they have one at all) that Christine O'Donnell could have her way without a debate, so she will have to participate in the democratic process and negotiate with the democrats.

I don't see her kissing Obama's ring (which he keeps in his back pocket) to get any concessions though.


But she could call up demons for aid or throw him into a subservient trance. Assuming she wins, of course. The Democrats could employ an exorcist.



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27 Sep 2010, 2:40 am

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But she could call up demons for aid or throw him into a subservient trance. Assuming she wins, of course. The Democrats could employ an exorcist.

She is through with the occult, and the thought of Obama being subservient to anyone or anything except his own ego is amusing.


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27 Sep 2010, 2:51 am

John_Browning wrote:
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But she could call up demons for aid or throw him into a subservient trance. Assuming she wins, of course. The Democrats could employ an exorcist.

She is through with the occult, and the thought of Obama being subservient to anyone or anything except his own ego is amusing.


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27 Sep 2010, 2:59 am

O' Donnell's campaign manager:


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27 Sep 2010, 3:16 am

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She is through with the occult,



Oh please...she was probably about as involved in the occult as catholic clergy are involved in sexual relations with males over 16. :lol:



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27 Sep 2010, 3:39 am

I must say....O'Donnell was kinda hot back in the Politically Incorrect days.


I wonder if she cheated on Jeebus with Bill Maher :wink:



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27 Sep 2010, 4:05 am

Horus wrote:
John_Browning wrote:


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She is through with the occult,



Oh please...she was probably about as involved in the occult as catholic clergy are involved in sexual relations with males over 16. :lol:


Which raises an interesting question.



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27 Sep 2010, 4:30 am

John_Browning wrote:
Sand wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
You are in CANADA. Why do you care so much? If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.


Just as we watched G.W.Bush mellow out. What's to worry?

Bush was the president and didn't have a sharply divided congress to deal with. When I was 18 I thought the republicans having 1-party rule would be be cool, but there were a few things that didn't go as planned. Now I think there needs to be enough of a balance for bills to get seriously debated before getting passed into law. The republicans will not have such a huge majority (if they have one at all) that Christine O'Donnell could have her way without a debate, so she will have to participate in the democratic process and negotiate with the democrats.

I don't see her kissing Obama's ring (which he keeps in his back pocket) to get any concessions though.

Even if the GOP doesn't manage to get a majority, they will undoubtedly be strong enough in the Senate to bring the federal government to a standstill, and I would not be surprised to see them do that. They aren't interested in compromise, negotiation, or the democratic process.


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27 Sep 2010, 5:07 am

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Even if the GOP doesn't manage to get a majority, they will undoubtedly be strong enough in the Senate to bring the federal government to a standstill, and I would not be surprised to see them do that. They aren't interested in compromise, negotiation, or the democratic process.

The constituents of GOP congressmen and senators don't care if they bring the government to a stalemate because most of them are getting elected to stop socialism run amuck.


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27 Sep 2010, 6:05 am

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The constituents of GOP congressmen and senators don't care if they bring the government to a stalemate because most of them are getting elected to stop socialism run amuck.

"Socialism?" Taxes right now are lower than they were under Reagan. The health care bill that passed was virtually identical to the 1993 Republican proposal. Regulations on business are not significantly tighter than they have been historically. Where in the world are you getting socialism from?


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27 Sep 2010, 8:37 am

John_Browning wrote:
If she gets elected she will have to mellow out and negotiate if she want's any concessions to her agenda anyway.

But what if Sharron Angle, Rand Paul, and the rest of the extreme right are elected along with her? The Tea Party has nominated a new low crop of Republicans for November.



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27 Sep 2010, 9:22 am

Master_Pedant wrote (in part): Let me say, for starters, that I detest the candidacy of Christine O'Donnell. I view her as the embodiment of anti-intellectual, religious demagoguery that's gripped the GOP for the past decade. Someone who rejects evolutionary biology and imagines the science pointing to the effectiveness of contraceptives surely won't enact reality-based public policy. There are, of course, her moronic comments on scientists creating mice with human brains...

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Christine O'Donnell [symbol of ignorance] is another George Bush, Jr. [symbol of ignorance]:

Grand Canyon made by Noah's flood, book says / Geologists [disagree]

http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-01-08/n ... bookstores

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It is concerning that folks like the above can be elected to political office and then misuse their power to fib (lie) to Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spanis ... nty_Python)