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14 Oct 2010, 10:21 pm

Since certain thoughts ought not to be thought, oughtn't these thoughts be sought at the root and preemptively uprooted? Free and mandatory polygraphs for everyone on Earth, the punishment being death for thought-crimes*. This way, evil thoughts will be purged prior to the possibility of them ever reaching the public in any fashion.





Notes: * Thought-crimes© means precisely what I mean it to mean, nothing more and nothing less.



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14 Oct 2010, 10:22 pm

Good luck with that. :roll:


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14 Oct 2010, 10:25 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Good luck with that. :roll:


Thanks. Do you wish to be the first "volunteer"? :P



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14 Oct 2010, 10:46 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Since certain thoughts ought not to be thought, oughtn't these thoughts be sought at the root and preemptively uprooted? Free and mandatory polygraphs for everyone on Earth, the punishment being death for thought-crimes*. This way, evil thoughts will be purged prior to the possibility of them ever reaching the public in any fashion.

Polygraphs are not reliable in detecting lies, much less unwanted thoughts.

BTW, is this PPR related?


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14 Oct 2010, 10:50 pm

greenblue wrote:
BTW, is this PPR related?


Yes, since it deals with Thought-Crimes©.



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14 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
greenblue wrote:
BTW, is this PPR related?


Yes, since it deals with Thought-Crimes©.

It looks more like "Off the Wall" related than PPR.


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14 Oct 2010, 11:03 pm

greenblue wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
greenblue wrote:
BTW, is this PPR related?


Yes, since it deals with Thought-Crimes©.

It looks more like "Off the Wall" related than PPR.

Nope, it's half serious once people actually realize that I'm attempting to be sardonic.



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14 Oct 2010, 11:09 pm

Polygraphs don't work.


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14 Oct 2010, 11:20 pm

Aside from the total inaccuracy of polygraphs, the concept of thought police is straight out of "1984". Sardonic or not, it nails your attitude down rather neatly towards totalitarian control.



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14 Oct 2010, 11:33 pm

Sand wrote:
Aside from the total inaccuracy of polygraphs, the concept of thought police is straight out of "1984". Sardonic or not, it nails your attitude down rather neatly towards totalitarian control.

I believe iamnotaparakeet is criticizing "Political Correctness" from his conservative (christian) point of view, rather than supporting totalitarian control, he may think that the "PC police" aims towards totalitarianism somehow.


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15 Oct 2010, 1:31 am

If everyone that felt threatened by "Thought-Crimes©" ganged up on the people that screen for "Thought-Crimes©", there wouldn't be any need to worry about "Thought-Crimes©" anymore. :D :P


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15 Oct 2010, 7:01 am

Though it hasn't been styled as such, "thought crimes" do exist and are enforced. It's just a matter of being just smart enough to not get sucked into those kinds of groups/societies. Take any kind of closed or authoritarian pseudo-religious cult. The Branch Davidians immediately spring to mind, though they did have a large degree of freedom. You COULD walk out, but their thoughts had become so aligned to the purpose of Koresh that they really didn't want to. Thus thought crimes are suppressed by intense isolation.

Other cults/religions are much more subtle. The one that is most overtly thought-crimeish in my opinion would be the "Church" of Scientology. They ACTIVELY seek to purge thoughts they perceive to be wrong. They cover it by appearing to allow a great deal of freedom for their members. Just don't join the Sea Org.

As for a method of government, what really stands in the way of something like that happening? Most likely diversity of thought and a highly independent spirit. So it's a matter of right time, right place, and right people.



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15 Oct 2010, 7:02 am

The notion of "thought-crime" is essentially making independent thought a crime. It is an anti-human notion. What we are as human beings are thinking beings. Not always wise in our thoughts, not always right in our thoughts but always thinking. It is what we are.

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15 Oct 2010, 7:18 am

Will never happen.

Polygraphs are geneally inadmissible in court. They are easily proven unreliable devices to determining if someone is being truthful. They only monitor physiological indicators and it's up to the person doing the exam to interpret if the results indicate truth or deceit, and they are easy to fake and it's easy for an honest person to give a false positive to a lie response.



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15 Oct 2010, 7:36 am

Bare thought unwrought cannot be caught, and ought not be sought. It would come to naught.



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15 Oct 2010, 8:34 am

There's always biofeedback.

Even better, add some electrodes to key areas of the brain and combine with ECT.