Mono-thesists, what is your purpose of life?

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29 Mar 2011, 7:41 am

What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?



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29 Mar 2011, 7:44 am

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?



Only the Great God Mono knows.

That is why they call believers Mono-Theists.

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29 Mar 2011, 7:45 am

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?


In a Cosmic sense there is no point to anything.

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29 Mar 2011, 7:54 am

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?

What is your purpose asking these questions?

They are obviously not very honest ones, yet I will try to answer if you might provide a context.


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29 Mar 2011, 8:10 am

leejosepho wrote:
01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?

What is your purpose asking these questions?

They are obviously not very honest ones, yet I will try to answer if you might provide a context.


Hes not really asking questions that have answers, much like saying "why is a fish?". Thus they are not honest questions. I think its pdg based on the format.


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29 Mar 2011, 9:08 am

Isn't that theists claim that religion gives their lives purpose and atheists have no purpose in life? I am interested in how is this making any sense.



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29 Mar 2011, 9:25 am

As I understand it, the purpose of going to Heaven is to spend eternity adoring and worshipping God, and that the alternative is unpleasant.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:49 am

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Isn't that theists claim that religion gives their lives purpose and atheists have no purpose in life?

Not in my own case, but disingenuous questions certainly do not make one of your own.


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30 Mar 2011, 10:58 am

Horus, Isis, Ra, have all given me life....



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30 Mar 2011, 8:01 pm

JeremyNJ1984 wrote:
Horus, Isis, Ra, have all given me life....


Ra, Ra where's my ka. Gone to the Afterlife, Ha, Ha, Ha.

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30 Mar 2011, 8:09 pm

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?


He won't get mat at them, I guess

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose of going to heaven?


You get to... live... in heaven? As opposed to your house

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What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?


I don't know but hopefully you won't get stuck next door to someone annoying.
Also, HEAVEN IS COMMUNIST!


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30 Mar 2011, 8:12 pm

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?
What is the purpose of making a thread that is obviously intended to flame bait?



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30 Mar 2011, 9:51 pm

This thread does have something interesting to it. I'd recommend that anybody concerned with issues of absurdity read Nagel's "The Absurd" http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-conten ... Absurd.pdf I agree with Nagel on the matter of absurdity being our problem, but not something resolvable by any possible universe.(at least not one which does not alter us) In this sense, God doesn't help. I do think that 01001011 does have a valid thread. I do think that removing some of the theism related direction would be valuable to it, however, I recognize that this is driven by skepticism towards the theist answer. However, the questions are all legitimate given that non-theism is regarded as meaningless.



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30 Mar 2011, 10:01 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Only the Great God Mono knows.

That is why they call believers Mono-Theists.

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I believe in mono! I've narrowly escaped catching it from a few people in my day.


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30 Mar 2011, 10:19 pm

If you don't mind my speaking a dialect of 'was':

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?

Its a way to strengthen and organize an idea - ie. choosing to be the 'best' person you can be, taking all the wonderful Disneyish wholesomeness and inner strength simultaneously. Its people meaning to take their best self-affirmations, don't have to see themselves as weak for choosing to go a more wholesome route, posit their values, goals, and affirmations in a place where they can't disprove that the universe itself/himself doesn't want that of them. Its also why there's such a culture clash between current Christianity vs. the older versions or why the bible's only paid so much heed when it talks about issues of non-Christians going to hell or genocide on other tribes in the old testament - that's dragged along as a "Do I REALLY have to believe this?".

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What is the purpose of going to heaven?

Self-actualization. Supposedly all limits are lifted and you can have everything out of yourself and your environment that you want. Christianity, as an organized ideal, is also part training on how to get everyone on a closer paradigm for them to be workable inside that utopia. I figure that God could simply clip a few instincts like our urge for competition or status and that would solve next to everything but apparently he's pretty stubborn on not interfering with what he built to begin with in full foreknowledge.

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What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?

This is why heaven simply isn't discussed, save in Revelations. No one really wants to know. If it has limits imposed it couldn't function as an eternal 'point B'. Obviously if your chemical pre-disposition is changed from mostly being in pain with a few peaks (here as we know it) to rolling on ecstasy every moment to eternity - eternity could actually be pretty fun pretty easily. Just like the designer sets the math, if the story goes that everyone sits around God and worships for eternity, or at least a good portion of every heaven day before going out to do what they do - if you enjoy kite surfing, riding a crotch rocket, bungy jumping, surfing, etc., you ask yourself why and you realize its fun...why is it fun and why do you find the need to do it..... it starts getting more and more vacuous as you really examine it, a lot of it is how lines of instinct come together and fold into motivations. If your motivations were stacked to get ultimate euphoria out of staring at a white wall for the rest of your life, doesn't matter how little you can relate to that concept right now, you probably very well could find it to be a truly spiritual experience. Like many atheists here acknowledge - there is no us, and with a few minor tweaks of instinct the rules change significantly.

In short - we don't know, we can figure that its possible that you could at least stand living for eternity in heaven (doctrine points in a direction that your physiology/instinct is altered to annoy you much less) but purpose? God (again - if he existed) got tired of popping champagne and partying by himself, he figures if he's not going anywhere anytime soon why should we. That might be all the purpose a system like that would need.


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30 Mar 2011, 11:22 pm

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose serving your magic man?


coming after the erudite poster above this post, anything i write is piffle and a half- still, i'll try to answer the OP's transcendental questions-
i don't feel i have any choice in the matter- i exist, and the means to cancel my existence are fraught with pitfalls. the purpose is strictly the domain of my ultimate creator. the only inkling of this ultimate purpose i can glean from the mundane details of my life, is to try to make it to the end in one piece and, incidentally, to try to learn something along the way to make my spirit a bit richer in wisdom for the return to the bright world above. wisdom is wampum in the upper worlds, and the more wisdom i bring back home, the better digs i can rate for myself in spirit.

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What is the purpose of going to heaven?


a rest-stop in between stints on earth. a place of truly higher education. ultimate relaxation and supernatural out-of-this-world adventures in higher dimensions.

01001011 wrote:
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?


it literally beats the hell out of the alternative. ascension in spirit would be the gist of what purpose the persian mystic Rumi hinted at in his tantalizingly terse description of what awaits the wayfaring stranger, in the realm of the spirits-

"I died as a mineral and became a plant;
I died as a plant and rose to animal;
I died as animal and I was a man.
Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man to soar
With angels blest. Yet even from an angel
I must pass on; All except God must perish.
When I have sacrificed my angel soul,
I shall become what no mind ever conceived."