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In a Democracy, elections are essential but expensive
Somebody tell the Lybians! 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Other (I am not one to limit choices, being Canadian!!) 75%  75%  [ 3 ]
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15 Apr 2011, 8:49 am

Four elections in seven years topic

Thoughts? :P


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15 Apr 2011, 9:04 am

Wages of democracy=more taxation topic

Democracy is very expensive. And if a minority government is returned, a new election looms. I can see a really wasteful pattern emerging here. What can be done? To get rid of Steve, we need to spend, and if Steve is returned, then it is money not well spent. Is this what democracy is all about? I think there is more to it, but others' opinions are needed.

Edit: fixed elections might be a way to go, though four years is a long time with Steve, though actually he has been with us five years!

Some blogs ihave been reading maintain that a fixed election, whether a minority parliament is sitting or not, is an incentive for that minority leader to make parliament work. This is what NDP leader Jack Layton maintained when his vote helped bring down the contemptuous Harper Conservatives.


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15 Apr 2011, 10:03 am

Make your vote count topic

And whatever, do not waste your taxes. Remember to vote on May 2, 2011.


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15 Apr 2011, 7:43 pm

Well, i am going to vote, but not for Harper, and sadly, since i don't earn a wage, i don't really pay taxes (i don't buy much either), so i can't comment on that.



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15 Apr 2011, 8:24 pm

As I said to Sue, I am voting for the most convenient independent. While enacting my privilege to vote, I will take action in such a way that displeases all of the parties. My vote will serve to narrow the gap. My idea of smaller government is one that is a minority. While elections are expensive, minority parliaments coerce parties to make concessions with each other, giving Canada a better blend of what Canadians want.


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15 Apr 2011, 9:08 pm

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Make your vote count topic

And whatever, do not waste your taxes. Remember to vote on May 2, 2011.


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15 Apr 2011, 10:51 pm

Life and taxes topic

Thanks for all the replies.

@Phil777 I do not mean just income tax, I mean all the taxes: GST, HST, Electronics taxes, Property tax, Education tax, Taxi tax, and the like. It is our money, and it should be spent wisely. :bounce:


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17 Apr 2011, 10:52 am

Well, there are two possible prime ministers and each carries different fiscal implications.

The liberals will narrow the fiscal gap by reversing the corporate tax cuts (we already have lower marginal corporate taxes than any G8 nation, including the US, and we are among the lowest in the OECD.

The Conservatives are making deferred promises, but we will see the second coming, first. If the program is not sustainable now, it won't be sustainable then.

That being said, there is almost no fiscal difference between the two major parties. The Liberals' platform is about $6bn larger, but with corporate taxes that are still competitive, globally.

In those circumstances, my vote is most swayed by the "Harper Government's" cavalier attitude toward Parliament, the media and citizens.


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17 Apr 2011, 10:59 am

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Well, there are two possible prime ministers and each carries different fiscal implications.

The liberals will narrow the fiscal gap by reversing the corporate tax cuts (we already have lower marginal corporate taxes than any G8 nation, including the US, and we are among the lowest in the OECD.

The Conservatives are making deferred promises, but we will see the second coming, first. If the program is not sustainable now, it won't be sustainable then.

That being said, there is almost no fiscal difference between the two major parties. The Liberals' platform is about $6bn larger, but with corporate taxes that are still competitive, globally.

In those circumstances, my vote is most swayed by the "Harper Government's" cavalier attitude toward Parliament, the media and citizens.


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Agreed. But I will not be voting for Iggy.


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18 Apr 2011, 3:25 pm

Well, in my riding I have an incumbent Liberal, and an NDP candidate that I could never support. The incumbent's victory is far from assured (I live in one of the Globe & Mail's 50 ridings to watch), so fortunately the strategic vote and my natural political instincts run hand in hand. I will be voting for the Liberals, without reservation.

Even if I lived in a riding where the Liberal candidate's victory was assured, I cannot bring myself to waste a vote on the Greens or any of the fringe parties in circumstances in which the Conservatives could run up the middle (frankly, there's a lot of social conservatives in the Green Party, so I won't touch them until they start exercising some party discipline on abortion and gay rights).

I was in a different riding last time and I voted NDP (againts my political principles) because the Liberal had no chance of winning, but could well have split the ticket. My urge to keep the Conservative's out was far stronger than my urge to vote for my party of choice.


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18 Apr 2011, 3:43 pm

visagrunt wrote:
Well, in my riding I have an incumbent Liberal, and an NDP candidate that I could never support. The incumbent's victory is far from assured (I live in one of the Globe & Mail's 50 ridings to watch), so fortunately the strategic vote and my natural political instincts run hand in hand. I will be voting for the Liberals, without reservation.

Even if I lived in a riding where the Liberal candidate's victory was assured, I cannot bring myself to waste a vote on the Greens or any of the fringe parties in circumstances in which the Conservatives could run up the middle (frankly, there's a lot of social conservatives in the Green Party, so I won't touch them until they start exercising some party discipline on abortion and gay rights).

I was in a different riding last time and I voted NDP (againts my political principles) because the Liberal had no chance of winning, but could well have split the ticket. My urge to keep the Conservative's out was far stronger than my urge to vote for my party of choice.


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I never knew the Greens were so socially conservative. :o I prefer all parties to adopt sound environmental policies, as these are important for any platform, and so for me the Green Party has too narrow an ideology. But I like to see their green ideas out in the open.

The Liberal candidate in my riding is an excellent choice, and so is the NDP one. But I vote in Federal and Provincial elections according to my party preference, so I know which one I will choose.

Is my vote wasted? Some would say yes, but this is how I have always voted. It is my choice. 8)


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18 Apr 2011, 3:45 pm

Hrm, i did heard regarding the Greens that they were against gay weddings. =/



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18 Apr 2011, 6:46 pm

Its proving a little tricky to find out who actually is running in my riding.


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18 Apr 2011, 9:37 pm

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Its proving a little tricky to find out who actually is running in my riding.


On the Run topic

How could this happen? :o


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19 Apr 2011, 5:35 am

Fuzzy wrote:
Its proving a little tricky to find out who actually is running in my riding.


Running in the riding? As opposed to Riding in the Running? And why is one Running for Office when he is Standing for Election?

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19 Apr 2011, 8:05 am

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Fuzzy wrote:
Its proving a little tricky to find out who actually is running in my riding.


Running in the riding? As opposed to Riding in the Running? And why is one Running for Office when he is Standing for Election?

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A run in my stocking topic

I have always liked metaphors myself, as this is what helped me to speak NT. And what would language be without the visuals, especially for a picture thinker like myself. I just read an excellent article in the New York Times (a supplement in my Toronto Sunday Star) dated april 17, 2011 regarding metaphoric usage in the English language, entitled: "Poetry for Everday life" by David Brooks.

@Fuzzy: You could look up one of the leader's web pages, or look for the web pages of the Alberta Federal Parties. I did something similar when I searched for my party's candidate, who has not yet sent out literature, and anyway, I prefer it to be on line. Sometimes you can email them and ask questions, or they can provide a telephone number for people to call.


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