How to peacefully disband The Illegimate State of Israel

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I hope one day, Israel will be peacefully disbanded. Here is what should happen.


1. Israel should return the West Bank and Gaza back to the Palestinians.

2. Arab countries who threw Jews out ,like Egypt, should start reinviting Jews back (Simular to what Gaddafi did with the Libyan Jews).

3. Israel Should give the Negev Desert to Palestine.

4. Once Israel is peacefully disbanded, Palestine should become a state for Native Palestinians whenether they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim athiest or any other religion.

And the Jews should all drop dead. Right?

Matzadah shall not fall a second time. If Israel goes down, it goes down with a bloody fight and the Israelis take their enemies down with them. That is how Israel is disbanded. In Fire and Blood. Keep in mind the Israelis have nukes and if necessary they will use them.

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nations are like that defended by bloodthirsty morons.
all of them not just israel these things don't just disband.

Well.
How DO you peacefully disband Israel?

You havent finnished laying that out.

Okay- return the occupied territories to Palestine.
And then send the Jews of Oriental extraction back to the Arab countries of their origin.

That still leaves Israel there.

Are you out to "disband" Israel, or just cut it down to size?

Do the European descent Jews (the majority) get to stay within the pre-1967 borders of Israel proper?
Or do they have to go back to Europe, or what?
Or are you saying the large Jewish population should live in Israel but under Palestinian rule?

you're attracting lbolts and you havent even finnished putting up your lightning rod!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biQtrQpyJGo[/youtube]That is all.

After the Disbandment of Israel, Jews can stay in Palestine, as long as they remain Palestinian. I am Jewish myself and i admire Jewish Culture. One of the reasons why i oppose zionism is because that it is destroying Traditional Jewish culture in countries abroad in which Judaism played an important part in the countries history. To me ,The creation of Israel is just like the creation of Pakistan.

Do you not think that there is that much hatred of the Israelis by Palestinians that that would make such a settlement impossible? It's a no-win situation.

In that case, I'm on Israel's side.

Profound.

But why should a British civic nationalist such as yourself feel any attachment to a distant ethnonationalist state that is not your own?

How about the Palestinians just grow up, because Israel is not going to disband, nor are they going to give up Jerusalem anymore than muslims would give up Mecca. In other news, if Egypt attacks Israel again, best case for them is they lose the Sinai (and control of the Suez again), worse case is we're looking at nuclear war.

Furthermore you have demonstrated you really don't know that much about history. Europe has a history of anti-sematism and it is on the rise again. The Holocaust happened before Israel was a country again. The Israelis would be more inclined to tell you that you can go jump in piranaha infested water dressed as a meatloaf.

Israel is not ethnonationalist. It is secular. Most Middle Eastern countries are based on ethno-religious nationalism and are decidedly undemocratic and authoritarian to boot. Israel is the beacon of democracy in a savage wasteland (not to say that all the people in other nations are savages - very much not so - but the governments are).

Muslim terrorism throughout the world needs to be combated. No-one minds a Palestinian state of sorts but they won't get one as long as they try to bomb and terrorise the peaceful population of Israel.



As long as in the heart, within,
A Jewish soul still yearns,
And towards the end of the East
An eye still watches toward Zion –

Our hope is not yet lost,
The hope of two thousand years,
To be a free nation in our own land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.
To be a free nation in our own land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.

Last edited by Tequila on 10 Apr 2011, 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.

I do think Israel is overkill on some operations, but for the most part the Israeli government is doing what it can to protect its citizens. Hamas on the other hand are nothing but scumbags and the Palestinian government needs to deal with em. Some of the Fatah can be negotiated with, but Hamas? Hell no.

Agreed, and right now Fatah can make peace with Israel, agree (and honor the agreement) to hunt down people actually launching terrorist attacks on Israelis, and probably with some discussion with the Israelis on borders, actually end up with a Palestinian State in the West Bank, settlement encroachments cease and the Palestinians in the West Bank will find their economy actually improves.

I doubt that is realistic. Something similar might work, though: Israel might annex the entire west bank and give the residents there citizenship. If they could convert from a religious Jewish state to a free secular state, that could have the results you want.


Only in the sense that apartheid South Africa was a "beacon of democracy in a savage wasteland".

Its at a point now where disbanding Israel would have a profoundly bad effect, probably akin to the effect its creation had on its neighbors. Thus I believe the best thing that can happen is Palestine being granted independence, and Jerusalem becoming its own city state to prevent Israel or Palestine dominance. Deals could be brokered between the three new states regarding movement between them, and (preferably) a single currency

Israel is a social infection in the region. Think about it: since their presence, the whole area has gotten red and swollen and irritated.


Anyone got some anti-inflammatory medicine?


I know someone who has an idea.


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It's like anything else where the implant is rejected: you either you have to remove the rejected implant or compromise the immune system to try and force the implant to take.

Hey, Did you know a lot of Palestinian Arabs are Christian?. The Palestinian Christians were not Muslims who converted to Christianity, They were there before Islam came to Palestine. Palestine is for Native Palestinians, When ether they are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist or any other religion.