Iran is banning dogs

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Not long ago, Iranian authorities have banned all advertisements for pets, pet food and other pet products
but now it seems that they want to take it even further, as far as bannings dogs from society.

Dogs are “unclean” and should be banned from society.

That is what 39 Iranian legislators have proposed to the country’s 290-member parliament, known as the Majlis.

If the law passes, dog owners will be banned from taking their pets out into public spaces and into vehicles.
First-time offenders will be fined five million riyals (approximately $4800);
they will be given 10 days to get rid of the dog.
If they fail to do so, health authorities will be called in to take the dog away from its owner.
It is unclear what would be done to the dog.

The health ministry has been asked to enforce the rules, as have city councils around the Islamic republic as well as the parliament’s culture committee, according to IRNA.

The 39 MPs say that other than canines being “unclean,” keeping dogs as pets goes against Iranian values.
The practice, they said indicated the influence of Western culture.

The campaign against dogs isn’t new, however.
In June 2010, Iran’s Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi sent a message that the practice of keeping dogs as domestic pets must stop.
He issued a fatwa (HE ISSUED A FATWA !) stating that “Friendship with dogs is a blind imitation of the West.”

He acknowledged, however, that the Quran does not explicitly prohibit contact with dogs.
Rather, the Grand Ayatollah said, such forbidding of contact with dogs was in keeping with Islamic tradition.
“We have lots of narrations in Islam that say dogs are unclean,” he said.

In October 2010, Hojatolislam Hassani, cleric and leader of the Friday prayer in the northwestern city of Orumiyeh,
went a step further and called for the arrest of all dogs and their owners.
“I demand the judiciary arrest all dogs with long, medium or short legs—together with their long-legged owners,” he said.

Dog ownership has been on the rise in recent years in Iran, a country of around 72.9 million people,
especially among Iranians in the affluent neighborhoods of north Tehran.
Hard-line judiciary agents and police have intermittently fined owners and confiscated their pets from streets and parks.

Guard dogs and sheep dogs are however considered acceptable.

No standards have been apparently set for their cleanliness.

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/04/iran-wan ... e-unclean/



Hahahaha ! !! and some people want them to have the A-Bomb ! !!




Enemies of the state!!

DIE UNCLEAN INFIDEL CREATURES of SATAN!! !

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I'm not particularly surprised by this.

Keeping dogs as pets is blind imitation of the west? I'm willing to bet that Iranians have always kept domesticated dogs, all the way before even the rise of ancient Persia!

-Bill, otherwise known s Kraichgauer

In case you missed the memo, we've known for quite a while the Iranian Government is nuts, this isn't exactly the first indication of that fact.

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What do the mullahs say about Persian cats?

I wonder what they mean by "unclean"? I recon human children carry 100 times more harmful viruses and bacteria than canines do.

Supposedly, a dog's mouth is cleaner than a human's.

I've heard that before but I'm not so sure it isn't just an urban legend. I just looked over to the door and my dog is currently cleaning his anus with his tongue

In before someone writes a zombie story in which all countries but Iran survive because dogs can smell and identify zombies.


Edit: about the dog mouth is cleaner claim. The urban myth It is not actually about it being cleaner but about it having less bacteria. I think it is actually true if I remember correctly (the reason I don't remember correctly is that it is a irrelevant factoid, continue reading) but the thing is that ultimately, bacteria count does not matter that much in comparison to whether you have antibodies for the bacteria, and your own mouth is probably fuller of bacteria that are benign for you than your dog's.

This crew is obviously unfamiliar with their own national history, or at any rate pre-Islamic national history. Dogs were revered in Zoroastrianism, to the point where they were incorporated into religious ceremonies etc.

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I wonder if the 1 or 2% of Iran's population that has held onto their ancient faith still feels this way? It would certainly give the authorities another excuse to move against them. Or perhaps exempt them, the way Zoroastrians are permitted to drink wine within their places of worship. My understanding is that the Iranian theocracy has been fairly tolerant to Zoroastrians, as it has not been to Bahai. (A Bahai in Iran is by definition some who converted out of Islam, in other words an apostate. A Zoroastrian dhimmi following the religion of his ancestors for time out of mind is one thing, an apostate quite another.) 'Course tolerance by the state doesn't mean tolerance in general.

And as for the rest, you'd think they could reasonably point to dog ownership as a symbol of national pride, to a time when Imperial Persia was one of the greatest empires on earth. And do so without reference to religion, much the way a Norwegian could take pride in the Vikings without having any interest in Odinism.

I don't think Iran is that tolerant of their ancient religion. The struggle between Islam and Zoroastrianism is somewhat complex, and (to me) tragic. But I have read Zoroastrians refer to the time since the Islamic conquest as the 'Dark Millennium for the Faithful'...

I knew I'd forgotten something...I read a translation of the Quran a few years ago but I'm no Quran expert, and that's putting it mildly. In fact, I'll admit I couldn't make heads or tails of it, as theology, history or cosmology.

But I do remember dogs seeming to have a positive portrayal in one of the Suras. I think what I'm thinking of is Sura 18, verses 18 and 20...which also happens to be in one of the strangest Suras, like something out of a bad fairy tale laced with LSD. But judge for yourself: Sura 18 (link), certainly the dog is counted as a companion to the "Dwellers of the Cave," as much as the rest of it has an Alice falling down the rabbit hole flavor.

And doesn't the Quran pwn everything else, "narrations" included?

I agree, but it is at least accorded official status, allowed certain places they can worship, etc. As long as they keep their mouths shut and their heads down and accept no converts the persecution they suffer is not from the machinery of the state but intermittently from gangs of thugs who know there's little chance of suffering for their actions.

Contrast this with the Bahai, there the state is very active in rooting out even a whiff of that faith, to the point where it is either extinct or close to it in Iran, where it actually began. The mullahs will apparently tolerate a few dhimmi, but zero apostates.



I'm under the impression that it was pretty straight-forward: at the time of the Arab conquest the Persian Empire had been fighting with the Byzantines, to the point where both were like punch drunk fighters, neither of whom could put the other away, and both seriously weakened. It also happened to be a time when the Zoroastrian priesthood had become corrupt, arrogant and venial, managing to alienate huge swaths of the population. So when the Arabs showed up with a new faith after crushing the opposition, large blocs converted without a second thought, and Persia when over to majority Islam very quickly. (This is in contrast to Egypt, which apparently remained majority Christian for two or three centuries post-conquest.)

One of those counterfactual history things would be to figure out what would have happened had they fought a century earlier, against a Persian empire with a respected priesthood and an army at full strength. Perhaps the Arabs still would have won, perhaps not.



That term is news to me. And if they do say it, they'd better not speak louder than a whisper.

I can't recall all of the specifics of the transition from Zoroastrianism, but you are right about the decadence of the priesthood at the time. One thing that helped speed its (relative) demise was that the Islamic conquerors worked to reconcile Persian history with Islam and remove the Zoroastrian traditions from it. Thus Persians could still admire the same ancestors and many traditions but not follow the teachings of Zoroaster, so there was not really a crisis of identity that would lead to dissatisfaction and resistance to change. It was win-win, in a way. Those who remained faithful ended up moving further East, into India and I think one last major community in Iran proper

Fido Fatwa? topic

Dogs do lick their butts. They clean themselves up. Are dogs dirty or carry disease? This is why there is medical care for dogs, cats, horses, sheep, cattle, and the like, and for people, as well.


In countries where humans are not thought of highly, it is easy to see why lesser animals are considered vermin to be disposed.

The two little pups in that basket are adorable. Shame on any god or person who thinks that pets are garbage.