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Can anyone please tell me about Wicca? Are there any wiccans with Aspergers on here?

I remember reading somewhere that in many Pagan religions autists and people with Aspergers played an important role and it was said that they were more in touch with the Elements. Can anyone tell me a bit more about that as well?

I come here open minded and I won't judge you, I don't believe in Christianity and I have found myself looking for something else lately.

"Wicca" seems to be a mix of 19th Century Spiritualism/Occultism, an idealized conception of Pre-Christian European religions and "back to earth mentality" as well as being a pretty typical New Age religion. While a very, very decentralized religion, which ranges from people who believe magical spells are real and multiple gods exist on one extreme towards people who merely call themselves "Wiccan" to express an affinity with nature on the other extreme, generally the types who practice this religion believe in all sorts of pseudo-scientific, "alternative" medicines. The founder of Wicca, English Civil Servant Gerald Gardner, came up with a revisionist history of witch-burnings in Europe in which said "witches" really did practice a Pre-Christian, pro-woman religion, which Garnder claimed he had learned from a witch who was part of a long line of witches. Most anthropologists generally consider said story bogus. Wiccan morality (summarized in something called "The Wiccan Rede") resembles John Stuart Mill's "Harm Principle" in that moral prohibitons are based solely on whether they cause harm ("The Wiccan Rede" generally goes "An it harm none, do what thou wilt"). Wicca is also noted for being a very female friendly religion, especially when contrasted with the Abrahamic faiths.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_beli.htm

http://www.skepdic.com/wicca.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiccan_Rede

@ Master Pedant
Such a calm and reasoned response, such good grace, are you ok? Even I choke back my sarcasm at the mention of 'wicca'

peace j

Well the idea of worshiping the guy on the cross seems weird to me.

Me too, Jesus on a stick and the whole martyrdom/death cult overtones are icky.

peace j

You know, when I was in my last year of High School, I heard a story about some crazy Christian guy who found out his daughter was into Wicca. He found out by discovery a trove of books which, after looking at them, he chucked into the fireplace. I'm not 100% sure if that story is 100% true, but if it's even remotely true, then I really do wonder why CFS lets people like that care for children.

Regardless, I do regard Wicca as a pretty flowery, flakey, New Age religion

If there was any religion I think a person with autism would be ideal for, it would be Satanism or Luciferianism. I thought of myself as a Luciferian once but shed it for general atheism. Nothing really into it though compared to some other people.

I find Christianity profoundly depressing.



Are you serious? You think autists should worship the devil? I'm not judging, I'm just trying to understand.

Wicca seems relatively harmless, as far as religions go. The Wiccan Rede (kind of a mission statement) ends with the words: "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will". Later versions say, "That is harms no one, do what you will".

I've been to several "Cakes and Ales" events, like Solstice and Equinox ceremonies, but have not been involved in any of the Cardinal rituals.

Last edited by Fnord on 04 Jul 2011, 6:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, 'worship the devil' is a strong word and mostly out of context. Numerous Satanists and Luciferians are actually atheist in nature. There are theistic ones but in the overwhelming majority of cases it is not the Christian duality theory. Most practice by themselves and not in any group. It is really something individual and just 'being your own God'. When Anton LaVey created Satanism in 1966, it was a parody of the Church, mainly attacking the conservatives (which you can see examples of in the Satanic Bible). It is a religion of your own self-expression. It is the one religion that pleases you for being different. Needless to say, sometimes I am very bad at explaining things, but I hope this clears things up.

But then why call it Satanism? Satan means the Adversary (of God).

Yes, if you are Christian. You do not need to believe the Christian Satan exists for you to be a Satanist. Satan could be part of a pantheon, etc. If you want me to PM you links, that is fine with me. It is rather awkward to post on the board I believe.

Also, did you know there are Satanic Nazis? No joke, they really exist.

I think I'm gonna pass, but thanks for the info!

So, any wiccans on here?

Master Pedant I have generally found calm and reasoned if partisan. Admittedly capable of passion.

As for Wicca and the like - Master Pedant's summary seems reasonable. Free country - somebody wants to join a group, somebody is persuaded of this or [like my sister] chooses to "believe" that - what is the dea.

Better one should go to a light version of Wicca or watch Oprah or subscribe to Mother Jones than get into a Powervolk cult or the Klan.

Here's a recent thread on Wicca and other forms of paganism:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt164087.html

I have to admit I have not heard anything about aspies being closer to the elements.

Someone finally ansered the OP's question!

To answer it again: yes there are number of pagans and wiccans on this site, and if you search the back pages of this the PPR forum you can find threads that they have started.